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This appeared in the news today....a real shocker and totally irresponsible.
Well at least that's the media's take on it....anyone needing WRX STi parts?

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That t**t could've been driving any car and still had the accident.
Shame it was a subie.

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Yeah, saw this on the front page of our newspaper the other day.

Not the best thing to be doing whilst someone is dying a few meters away from you. I think the only thing that guy has going for him is that the Subaru has t-boned the Escort on the drivers side on the round-about. Meaning that the Subaru would have been coming from the right hand side.



I'm sure that Escort would have been quite a little collectable given the state it was in before hand.

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yea i saw this on the front page of the newspaper too .. wasnt much left of the poor little Esky Pvan.

it also said the wrx was un-registered and the driver was un-licensed :suicide:

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/s … 28,00.html

the teenagers that where driving the WRX simply sat down and ate takeaway food and watched while others tried to help the elderly couple out of the Pvan!! :@

"They just stood there, and then they sat down and then someone dropped Maccas off to them," he said.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH TEENAGERS THESE DAYS!!

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That's terrible, how could you be so heartless as to stand there and watch while people are dying!!!

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988OXR;165145 wrote:

I think the only thing that guy has going for him is that the Subaru has t-boned the Escort on the drivers side on the round-about. Meaning that the Subaru would have been coming from the right hand side.
Well spotted.

I sure hope they were off their head on something because if that's seriously how people are going to behave from my generation sober then we're all in for some f**ked up times...

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In their defense, they didn't leave the scene and if there were others more qualified there was no point them getting involved and potentially making things worse. And if someone drops some fast food off to you what are you going to do? let it go to waste?

however, if they t-boned the escort in the round about they weren't abiding by the golden rule of round abouts - "give way to other traffic already in the round about" This doesn't matter if they are to your left. If they are in the round about you have to give way to them. The escort driver probably entered the roundabout before the teenagers were in sight - I've been in that position once on the bike and only (narrowly) escaped because the bike was able to accelerate out of danger

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smythie;165163 wrote:

In their defense, they didn't leave the scene and if there were others more qualified there was no point them getting involved and potentially making things worse. And if someone drops some fast food off to you what are you going to do? let it go to waste?

however, if they t-boned the escort in the round about they weren't abiding by the golden rule of round abouts - "give way to other traffic already in the round about" This doesn't matter if they are to your left. If they are in the round about you have to give way to them. The escort driver probably entered the roundabout before the teenagers were in sight - I've been in that position once on the bike and only (narrowly) escaped because the bike was able to accelerate out of danger
you gotta be pullin my leg right ? your telling me you sit there and eat macca's that you old lady dropped off after doing that to someone .
as for who should have given way to who doesn't work when doing that sort of speed.
this bloke is going to hang.

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you gotta be pullin my leg right ? your telling me you sit there and eat macca's that you old lady dropped off after doing that to someone .
as for who should have given way to who doesn't work when doing that sort of speed.
this bloke is going to hang.
Re: giving way. The teenagers should have given way.

Re: the kids sitting there. I'm not kidding you. Personally I'd rather some bystander jumping in than the idiots driving the car who tried to kill them. I'm not concerned with "you caused that ****, you fix it". I'm more concerned with the safety of those injured. And who's to say that the teenagers were physically capable of helping out? They could have (and probably were) suffering from some level of shock. The food was probably also a suggestion from someone else to get something to eat and stay warm.

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this bloke is going to hang.
Looks like they're going to try, and personally I hope they succeed.

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/stor … 02,00.html

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smythie;165171 wrote:

Re: giving way. The teenagers should have given way.
Re: the kids sitting there. I'm not kidding you. Personally I'd rather some bystander jumping in than the idiots driving the car who tried to kill them. I'm not concerned with "you caused that ****, you fix it". I'm more concerned with the safety of those injured. And who's to say that the teenagers were physically capable of helping out? They could have (and probably were) suffering from some level of shock. The food was probably also a suggestion from someone else to get something to eat and stay warm.
I agree with your sentiment to a point, in that we shouldn't necessarily jump straight onto the "they were bastards" bandwagon. So far though, the signs seem to indicate that these idiots have earned the scum tag. It's not so much that they didn't rush over to render assistance, it's that they did the complete opposite. They were completely blase about it, didn't have a care in the world. I think if most normal people were in that situation and felt that they couldn't help, at the very least they'd be trying to comfort the people in the car, and would probably be more than a little distraught.

Also, real, proper shock means a loss of appetite, if you're in shock you actually have trouble functioning properly. According to what I've read, these "men" were laughing and joking and eating food, which doesn't point at them being concerned in the slightest.

The very best case scenario is that they simply didn't realise the gravity of the situation. The worst (and IMHO, most likely) case is that they knew but didn't care.

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I'm not about to be passing judgement based on the sensationalist media personally. About the only facts you can work with is that they were sitting on the other side of the road while others attempted to free the injured. The rest is conjecture (from the media) and omitted fact

Judging them for being scum is pretty premature. It may end up being correct but how do you know that someone more qualified hadn't already told them to stay out of the situation. The media certainly wouldn't have published that sort of information - it wouldn't work very well in the story they published would it?

In the end, none of us know and will likely never know the full extent of the truth of the actual events in this case.

Personally I'll limit my judgement of them as idiots for approaching a round about at a speed which they couldn't pull up if necessary

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Don't forget either that they were in an unregistered car with an unlicensed driver. I'll reserve judgement on the previous confiscation/hoon charge because cars can be confiscated under the hoon laws for what are, frankly, ridiculous reasons.

As for their behaviour at the scene, the media reports have been backed up by people who were in the area at the time, their reports weren't exactly glowing sad

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subnub;165198 wrote:

Don't forget either that they were in an unregistered car with an unlicensed driver. I'll reserve judgement on the previous confiscation/hoon charge because cars can be confiscated under the hoon laws for what are, frankly, ridiculous reasons.
Agreed. And the cops can still pull confiscatable offences trying to bait you

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As for their behaviour at the scene, the media reports have been backed up by people who were in the area at the time, their reports weren't exactly glowing sad
Links? Source (eg personal contacts)? Interested is all

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There were plenty of comments on the news article, though admittedly they don't always present a balanced (or unedited!) opinion haha. Also, heard a bit from a friend of my brother's who apparently lives a block or so from that roundabout.

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Cheers

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smythie;165163 wrote:

however, if they t-boned the escort in the round about they weren't abiding by the golden rule of round abouts - "give way to other traffic already in the round about" This doesn't matter if they are to your left.
How do you know the spastic teenagers weren't on the roundabout, and the old couple pulled out in front of them?
I'm certainly not defending them, but they may not have actually caused the accident. Obviously they were going too fast to prevent it though...

Also, if you just killed someone in a car accident, you aren't going to be hungry.

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100% spot on, thats because most people not all are like them...shane

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y so srs?

Needs more bug-eye jokes.

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Xon wrote:

How do you know the spastic teenagers weren't on the roundabout, and the old couple pulled out in front of them?
Wouldn't that be a passenger side impact if that was the case. Or you would have to be driving the wrong way round, which is even more stupid.

Talking of stupid, in France, the rule is those entering a roundabout have priority :suicide:

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odeo;165233 wrote:

y so srs?

Needs more bug-eye jokes.
w0rd.

go to rexnet to start a flame thread there...  what's the point of discussing how bad wrx drivers are, here?



personally, i don't drive a wrx because im no sheep.

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Stig282;165234 wrote:

Wouldn't that be a passenger side impact if that was the case. Or you would have to be driving the wrong way round, which is even more stupid.
Stiggy, stop and read what you posted matey.:secret:


The WRX has t-boned the Escort on the drivers side of the Escort. Not sure how it is over in the west, but over here in Qld, we go clock-wise around the round-abouts. Meaning that the WRX has been coming from the Escorts right hand side.:Derisive:

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:suicide2: :ninja: lol

I blame mid afternoon, low sugar, and paint fumes for that one...

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Stig282;165274 wrote:

:suicide2: :ninja: lol
I blame mid afternoon, low sugar, and paint fumes for that one...
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Its ok Craig. :secret:

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Have to agree that the actions leading up to the accident were totally irresponsible. Things like that give other young drivers, and sports/performance car drivers (or enthusiasts as some more correctly are) a bad name.

The post crash behaviour, well I'd say everyone would have slightly different reactions after a crash, maybe that's how they'd best console themselves. I for one am quite the opposite.

After my crash, which was similar, I t-boned a commodore which pulled out in front of me as I was doing 80km/h. First thing I did was make sure my passenger was ok, gave her my phone so she could initiate the call to 000, and I proceeded to the other vehicle involved, checking that the passengers of that car were awake and conscious. I didn't care how I was feeling, I just wanted to ensure everyone was ok and I was doing as much as I could to assist. I stayed with the other driver as she was sorta trapped, my friend brought the phone back to me to describe where the accident had occurred. From then on I was constantly walking back and forwards between my friend and the driver of the other car, keeping an eye on them making sure that they didn't take any bad turns.

Could never ever just stand by and let it go, watching everyone else trying to help them...

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