A high percentage of threads contain unprovoked 'moronic' actions. Seems to be a part of the Ozliberty culture.

Edit: Just read it was a quote from a PM, maybe it should remain 'private'?

Contact admin and or a moderator if you have any issues regarding any members here.

Some will sort the issue straight out. Then there's some that would don the Cheese suit and hide...

SOO081 wrote:

Contact admin and or a moderator if you have any issues regarding any members here.

Nothing further to be said.

Feel free to air your greivances with me or one of the other moderators. You can find out who is a moderator here;

http://www.ozliberty.com/forums/showgroups.php



Cheers,
Nik

What kind of immature stupidity is that?

Honestly, A lot of people need to grow the hell up. Over the last few weeks there's been a massive amount of retarded crap going on, when is it going to stop?

There seems to be a group mind set, that you have to do things a certain way, and if you don't do it that way, then your wrong/stupid/noob.

Now if its things like putting a 4' exhaust on your car, or spending $200 on a pod filter for an NA H4. The by all means, call it for the stupidity it is.
But when it gets to the point, where its risky business to post an opinion or sharing a picture with the rest of the community for fear of being flamed.
Well, that's just getting way out of hand.

Doesn't Ozliberty kind of pride itself on being a community rather than just a faceless collection of technical data?

Because, if this is a community, bring on the tech data....

what's some things that can be done to "make things right"?

Looking for genuine idea's rather than a slanging match.
Because it seems we really need to revamp the whole attitude of the forum.

What?
So nothing should be done at all, because were all guilty of it?
Just let it keep going the way that it is, because i can surely see were that's leading...

I know I'm as guilty as the next bloke. Maybe before hitting reply, just ask yourself, is this really adding value to the thread? You don't have to like everybody - life doesn't work like that.

One quick way to start some positive chit-chat;

What was the last thing you did to your car? Even if it was a while ago, maybe you'd like to post it up and let people know whether it was value for money, easy/hard etc.

Cheers,
Nik

viktorkay wrote:

:cray:  u all doing my head now, I mean, the bloke can to what he likes and if 20's on a car is his go, then enjoy buddy, but f++k it's like a wolf's den in here lately, we all have and/or enjoy Subaru, so lets support and enjoy each others rides.  THE CHEESE, u buddy need to address the issue's, this once great site had the best, honest and funniest members, now alot of softc++ks and clean out the weeds, if I had my way i'll line up half the noobs and :vinsent:

Sweet cleanup time you want to be the first to leave ? with attitudes like that please dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.... so either like it here or go i am not fused

Cheers Nath

veryfewmiles wrote:

Sweet cleanup time you want to be the first to leave ? with attitudes like that please dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.... so either like it here or go i am not fused

Cheers Nath

Sorry Nathan, but I have to agree with B484.

Having an attitude like that, it could hardly be described as being productive. We do have in fact very good members here who do contribute a rather lot to the collective, but its been brewing for a long time.... this dissatisfaction of the whole place. I believe the root of all of these problems stems from the administration.

We had thought that on your sudden "Arrival", Nath, that you would straighten things out a bit. We thought that you were different. We thought that you were one of the few that didn't have a chip on their shoulder. We thought you were down to earth, and a straight out sort of guy. The type of administration we so desperately need on these forums.

I'm now beginning to think that perhaps that I was wrong, and that you're just like the rest of the arrogant, inconsiderate, vindictive and unrelenting ones. I mean, imagine, a separate profile created to purposefully harass people if they stepped out of line? Hiding behind the security of an anonymous user only to use it to make an absolute jackass of yourself, only to log back in on your original user to behave like nothing has ever happened?

In the real word, that's a serious mental health problem referred to as "Bipolar Disorder", and is treated with medication.

So, how about instead being part of the problem, that I challenge you to be part of the solution. Instead of being stand off like, that you be the first to offer the olive branch? How about looking after your established members as well as you do the "n00bs"?



Alex out.

SOO081 wrote:

Sorry Nathan, but I have to agree with B484.
Having an attitude like that, it could hardly be described as being productive. We do have in fact very good members here who do contribute a rather lot to the collective, but its been brewing for a long time.... this dissatisfaction of the whole place. I believe the root of all of these problems stems from the administration.
We had thought that on your sudden "Arrival", Nath, that you would straighten things out a bit. We thought that you were different. We thought that you were one of the few that didn't have a chip on their shoulder. We thought you were down to earth, and a straight out sort of guy. The type of administration we so desperately need on these forums.
I'm now beginning to think that perhaps that I was wrong, and that you're just like the rest of the arrogant, inconsiderate, vindictive and unrelenting ones. I mean, imagine, a separate profile created to purposefully harass people if they stepped out of line? Hiding behind the security of an anonymous user only to use it to make an absolute jackass of yourself, only to log back in on your original user to behave like nothing has ever happened?
In the real word, that's a serious mental health problem referred to as "Bipolar Disorder", and is treated with medication.
So, how about instead being part of the problem, that I challenge you to be part of the solution. Instead of being stand off like, that you be the first to offer the olive branch? How about looking after your established members as well as you do the "n00bs"?
Alex out.

Have you any evidence of the above mentioned 'dual personalities?' Im just curious to see what the above claims are based upon?

SOO081 wrote:

Sorry Nathan, but I have to agree with B484.

Having an attitude like that, it could hardly be described as being productive. We do have in fact very good members here who do contribute a rather lot to the collective, but its been brewing for a long time.... this dissatisfaction of the whole place. I believe the root of all of these problems stems from the administration.

We had thought that on your sudden "Arrival", Nath, that you would straighten things out a bit. We thought that you were different. We thought that you were one of the few that didn't have a chip on their shoulder. We thought you were down to earth, and a straight out sort of guy. The type of administration we so desperately need on these forums.

I'm now beginning to think that perhaps that I was wrong, and that you're just like the rest of the arrogant, inconsiderate, vindictive and unrelenting ones. I mean, imagine, a separate profile created to purposefully harass people if they stepped out of line? Hiding behind the security of an anonymous user only to use it to make an absolute jackass of yourself, only to log back in on your original user to behave like nothing has ever happened?

In the real word, that's a serious mental health problem referred to as "Bipolar Disorder", and is treated with medication.

So, how about instead being part of the problem, that I challenge you to be part of the solution. Instead of being stand off like, that you be the first to offer the olive branch? How about looking after your established members as well as you do the "n00bs"?



Alex out.

Alex,

It has gotten to a point where trying to make the positive almost impossible. As i have said to you i look to the senior members for help with the forum. But i am constantly seeing the senior members the first once to show no self control. So where am i to look ?

My reference to leave and goto anothet site ... look at RSLC and others honestly answer me this would they put up with half of the rot that goes on here and is left alone ? no bosko and others would bounce your butt from the door no warning no explanation no nothing banned simple as that.

Ok we took a positive step and made XXb4XX a mod ....now it seems you have made him "one of them" wheres the sense in that ?

Nik theprotest a mod same comment "one of them" i am trying to get you guys to help out rather than me being the be all of end all and you guys show no repsect for the use of a better term " one of your own "

No hiding here mate ... this is me no other usernames just me spade a spade call it how i see it sorry if that offends you but thats me.

My biggest problem is that this place if provided to you guys and you treat it with the utmost contempt. But i will not give up and chuck in the towel like the others.

Now the olive branch .... you guys arent kids you are big boys now..... i have made public post after public post and had a grand total of 10 positive emails with suggestions and to date 63 pms and 4 emails with only negatives about this person and that person and anything else. If there was something with merit and constructive in them i would be all ears but there isnt

I shouldnt have to hold your guys hands you know how this works. You should be leading by example not be infamous by example.

If you guys/girls can self moderate provide positive or constructive crititism make it a place people want to come back to and hang around i will site back and get more important things happening like the WIKI and upgrade the forum.

So the branch is there .... lets see who is willing to help.

Cheers Nath

alexxx wrote:

1. Have some respect.
2. Think before you open your mouth and make a dickhead out of yourself.
3. Keep your immature s**tfighting comments to yourselves!
What the f*ck is going on here this is turning into a forum of bitches! Grow the f*ck up its a car forum! i've lost count on how many of these types of threads are on here and normally just go, oh look another one. but seriously if something needs to be changed here its not the admins. Why should they have to smack someone over the wrist for a GROWNUP's behaviour?
So to those who are carrying on with this immature behaviour you know who you are, cut the sh*t and grow up.

Showing your age there huh Alex

All have been very valid points. It would be a big disappointment to see Ozliberty go that's for sure.

I think the reason why there has been so much off topic talk here lately is because there is already quite a lot of info on here, and I have noticed that people are starting to use the search and dig out old threads more often these days.

I do think that people taking peoples opinions to heart a little too often on here, and where feedback is asked for - it is certainly received both good and bad. Some people are better at dealing with that negative feedback than others.

Overall I think there are some people on here who really do need to do maybe even just a little bit of research up before posting up a very common, and already covered question. As far as I am aware, people like that may get poop dumped on them at the start - but after a while (if they hang around and just get over the fact that they asked a silly question) the 'regulars' or the rest of the 'community' on here opens up to them and accepts them.

I don't think people necessarily have to worry about contributing to the site / content greatly at first - simply sussing it all out and getting your footing and watching from the sideline is a great way to familiarise yourself with the people on here and topics that are discussed. Doing this may help people to not get their panties in a twist when someone disagrees with a mod they've done.

Some people join up here that are active members in other forums, and some will pick up on this straight away and welcome them with open arms, or just notice that they are a new member. Either way I think that new users (given even just a tiny bit of manners) can actively participate in this site from day one, and not run in to any problems.

Overall I think some of the moderating on this site is a little over the top, generally speaking (as someone who seems to stay out of trouble on here) from my opinion it is ok, some members seem to cop it left right and center (one in particular) for what I view as completely unjust and not deserved in the slightest. Whilst there may be some tongue in cheek humor from the individual I am talking about, at the end of the day it is to be expected given the history.