richo_besto;141420 wrote:

I always though he was simply mediocre *shrugs shoulders*

Im inclined to agree with this, while im happy he is doing alot better this year I just dont think he is on the same level as a driver compared to the top tier guys.

Hello!!

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Seriously guys - the main reason he isn't on the pace of the top guys is down to the fact he isn't driving a Ferrari, Maclaren or a BMW. He has never had a top draw car to drive - when he went to Williams they were a team on the way down while the other teams were on the way up. And the other teams - especially Minardi and Jaguar - just didn't have the money or engineering to compete any better than mid field, when the car lasted that is. Red Bull is a team on the way up - they have been impressing this season, showing genuine pace and much improved reliability over last season.

While for those that don't follow F1 closely, it may seem he's not doing much - but trust me, this season he is doing just about as good as can be possible given he's not driving for the top teams.

BSPECWGN wrote:

His mind isnt on the job

theprotest;141532 wrote:

Hi,

I would like this man to represent me.

Cheers,
Nik

I would prefer this fine lady represent me

He's just a tool. Lol I can't stand him :beee:

Webber is in the top 5 drivers imo....he has never had the machinery to show his skill. Put him in a ferrari or mclaren and he would be fighting for the championship.
You only have to look at a race which has rain and it equlalises the cars somewhat, he's always at the pointy end of the field.

Have to say he is the unluckiest driver ever. The amount of bad luck he has in races is shocking.

odeo;141413 wrote:

What is it that's keeping Mark Webber consistantly outside the top 5 when qualifying - and to a lesser extent, his finishing positions?
He always seems so promising when qualifying, but just doesnt have the pace of the McLaren's, Ferrari's and BMW's? He finally has a reliable car this year, could it have been his lack of consistancy in the car that's thrown him off possibly.
Is it his car/team, or his driving ability? OR are the other guy's just too good?

I find it amusing that you should point how poorly he is performing, while he is having his best, most consistent season ever...

Perhaps it might put things into perspective to point out that he is equal 7th in the driver's championship, ahead of Fernando Alonso and consistently making the top 10 in qualifying.

Would be amusing to put him into Kimmi's Ferrari for a race, and see how he performs. I have a feeling... he would do quite well.

I never said he is performing poorly, you even quoted me as saying...

What is it that's keeping Mark Webber consistantly outside the top 5 when qualifying - and to a lesser extent, his finishing positions?

He is consistant, I agree...he's consistantly just outside the top 5.

He is consistant, I agree...he's consistantly just outside the top 5.

Yep, you are right about that...

But as I am trying to point out, if you don't drive for the top 3 teams at the moment (Ferrari, Maclaren, BMW) and all their drivers finish - which will usually mean positions 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th - then where does everyone else finish?

The midfield battle is also extremely tight and intense this year - Red Bull, Renault and Toyota have 6 drivers generally trying to get the last 2 points postions (7 & 8) - sometime 8 drivers if Williams is included. Occassionally, the big teams stumble and then occassionally one of the midfield teams has a really good weekend (such as toyota/trulli this weekend) but on the whole its the rest of the field scrambling for scraps.

It is one of the great frustrations with F1 - but considering this Webber is doing pretty good IMHO.

Dude just isn't in a fast car.

Cheers,
Nik

Jeez, why didn't I just say that?!

That's a bit harsh Cracka - people ask him questions and he gives them answers. Damned if he do and damned if he don't - at least it isn't the same PR s**t most of the other drivers spew forth.

I do agree though that for a Formula 1 driver his missus isn't the usual stunning looker - though I am sure she is a lovely lady...

Karlos_2.5i;141664 wrote:

I hate when people say "machinery is what cost him" blah blah "he doesn't have the right car " blah blah , i remember a certain man with the initial A S who came runner up in the championship in 1993 with the then inferior Mclaren team. Some people have that talent, some people don't , i don't so i keep my a** in a Subaru road car seat .

Reminds me of the Top Gear episode in season 10 (not on TV out here yet I don't think) where the hosts compete in a 24 hour event in a diesel 5 series beemer. They stick the Stig behind the wheel and he takes them from last to 1/2 way up the pack, catching up to Vipers... Although I imagine the competition would be a bit stiffer in F1... :ninja:

Hi,

You don't get to drive a Formula 1 car if you don't have talent.

You just don't.

Cheers,
Nik