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Question to those who have done chassis welding and repairs.
I'm looking at buying a TIG welder for an upcomming little project.
What is the difference between plasma cutters OXY torches?
Does anyone have a reccomendation on a brand of welder that is reasonably priced and sturdy and is an easy machine for a fat clumsy bugger like me to learn with.
Oh and whats the difference between TIG and MIG? I think MIG uses Argon gas to help with the weld.

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Thankyou RS Liberty.com

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Tig is aluminum welding...
Mig uses corgon gas.....

i bought a cigweld mid unit for about $1200....plus i rent the bottle of gas $13 everymonth plus gas which is $76

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Thanks Jovan. Did a little search and came up with this.
The MIG weld process, or Metal Inert Gas weld, fuses the metal by heating with an arc. With this type of weld, the arc is placed between the filler metal electrode and the work piece. Shielding is provided by outwardly supplied gas or gas mixtures. A TIG weld or Tungsten Inert Gas, on the other hand, functions by joining metals through the process of heating with tungsten electrodes that do not become part of the completed weld. The process utilizes argon or other inert gas mixtures as shielding and filler metals are rarely used.

Some of the basic differences between the two types of welds are that MIG welding is faster than using TIG welding, as utilizing TIG welding requires more skill that MIG welding. A solid wire is used in the MIG Flux Cored Arc Welding-Gas Shield (FCAW-G) while TIG uses a flux cored electrode.

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sweet...

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fatcat67 wrote:

while TIG uses a flux cored electrode.
i dont know where you cut/paste that from but theres some lies in there.
tig uses fusion and solid filler rods/wire

some TIG rods, like brasing and silver soldering are flux covered

an ARC welder also called MMA welding uses a flux covered electrode

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I just googled it Billsy.
You know that all the info on the internet is 100% true and correct.big_smile

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soooooooooooo.. what are you welding ??? :bad:


do remember to take off the battery when welding (so you dont fry the onboard computers!!!), since you will be grounding on the car's chassis!!!!

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billsy wrote:

i dont know where you cut/paste that from but theres some lies in there.
tig uses fusion and solid filler rods/wire
some TIG rods, like brasing and silver soldering are flux covered
an ARC welder also called MMA welding uses a flux covered electrode
beat me to it Billsy..

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You can also get gasless wire for the MIG welder. We use that at work

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Gas less mig is sh!t IMO, it leaves spatter everywere.

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Suprauc wrote:

Gas less mig is sh!t IMO, it leaves spatter everywere.
Yeah well, Its a quarry remember pauly. Nothing lasts:moil:

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Gasless mig wire is good for standard welding jobs that you may normally use a normal arc welder with, I use the gasless wire all the time for welding rhs, pipe, etc, but to weld thin stuff like car panels you need to use argon as you can weld much better and cooler which is very important in car panels and the like to avoid  metal heat fatigue which causes lovely ripples.

TIG does use a rod as the filler, so technically the first comment was right as you don't expend the material producing your heat or arc, but you still need to fill the join. TIG is heaps neater when done right, hard to get a mig weld as good as a decent tig weld.

I think from a strength point of view they are much of a muchness.

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migs far easier to master, point the trigger and join the metal however will produce a lesser quality finish compared with tig, tig requires more timing and a bloody steady hand...  heat input can also be an issue with tig coz travel speed is heaps slower, thats where the timing etc comes in, constant speed, constant addition of filler wire etc etc...

if you gonna buy a tig, go with one that has pulse, this will keep the heat down. I'd say max amps of about 70 and lower end of the pulse about 10-20 amps. then just play with the frequency till its pulsing about 10 times a second... should help a bit rather tha using a constant current.

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