The clutch went up in smoke!
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by Cardboard Tube Samurai on 05-02-11 08:51 PM So driving home from the dog park this evening, I take off (gently) at a set of lights and notice a bit of a shudder and not a great deal of 'pedal' before it grabbed. Next few gear changes sees the pedal shrinking even further to the floor. Get to the next set of lights and have my foot to the floor... revs start dropping and the car starts edging forwards. Take the car out of gear... try to put it back... GRRRRRIIINNNNDDDD... Turn the car off, smell burning clutch smell, notice plumes of smoke pouring out from under the car. Right at a busy intersection too. A generous bystander helped me push it up a side street out of harms way and I waited for a tow.
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by BigWillieStyles on 05-02-11 09:41 PM If you have 165,000km on the factory clutch, your doing pretty well. The life on a factory clutch is about 100 to 150,000kms. I have heard that Subaru clutches usually wear out quite quickly.
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by got Nang? on 06-02-11 07:29 AM They don't love hard revving launches as I'm pretty sure Subaru designed them to be the weaker link in the drivetrain.
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by BigWillieStyles on 06-02-11 08:01 AM
Yeah I have heard that before somewhere. |
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Legacy GT-B |
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by Cardboard Tube Samurai on 06-02-11 01:07 PM I got a call from the mechanic just before. It's nowhere near as catastrophic as expected. Apparently just a hose on the back of the gearbox or something (braided?). Only going to cost about $150. Looks like I dodged a bullet this time round |
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by Cardboard Tube Samurai on 07-02-11 10:01 AM So I got a phonecall from the mechanic thismorning informing me that it wasn't just this hose. In fact the master cylinder is rooted too and it did take out the clutch. Funny that the master cylinder was dry because the reservoir was still full: must have had a blockage somewhere. |
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by XoN on 07-02-11 10:58 AM You might want to go and check out this rooted clutch for yourself. I don't really see how a failed master cylinder could cause your clutch to suddenly and catastrophically go up in smoke.
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V7 STi EJ207 powered 1998 Liberty RX Bilstein Edition |
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by Cardboard Tube Samurai on 07-02-11 02:47 PM I understand what you're saying but this guy is one of those incredibly rare mechanics who doesn't actually take you for a ride with these sorts of things. He has actually talked me out of getting work done in the past a couple of times because it was not needed. I've mentioned this in another thread "Clunking when turning" how he could have charged me a sh!tload of money to completely replace the CVs (and I would have believed it was required!) but instead just cleaned them up because they were mostly ok. If it is in fact the original clutch, I think 165,000 kms is a pretty good run. He's a bit pricey but it's worth it. The actual mechanic (as opposed to the business owner) is a former Subaru mechanic too apparently |
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by Cardboard Tube Samurai on 09-02-11 05:36 PM I got the car back today... $1978.05 later!!! The throw-out bearing had seized and taken out the clutch and the clutch arm. Now sporting a solid mass flywheel setup which is quite different feeling to the dual mass setup. I think I like it though because it feels much more 'connected' to the engine revs. I didn't even have to ask for the solid setup and I'm guessing the former Subaru mechanic knew about it.
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by BigWillieStyles on 13-02-11 08:28 AM
Damn, hope your happy with the end result. I got into my car today after not driving it for a week or so and the clutch pedal was really stiff. Still changes gear fine. I think when I burnt the clutch I must have done some major damage. When the clutch is burnt, does the master/slave cylinder fluid burn off? Curious if it may be an easy fix. If its the clutch, I will be opting for one of the Exedy ones available. |
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by XoN on 13-02-11 11:53 AM
I actually know another Liberty owner that happened to, but he knew his throwout bearing was rooted and chose to ignore it... That price doesn't sound too far off, at least half of it would be labor costs for removing the gearbox, which is a massive pain in the ass! |
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V7 STi EJ207 powered 1998 Liberty RX Bilstein Edition |
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by BigWillieStyles on 13-02-11 02:19 PM
I reckon its prefectly inline with what dealerships charge, but a private mechanic would be cheaper. I had my clutch on my old prelude cost me 700 all up including replacement clutch. Labour was about 300ish. Honda dealership wanted 3K to do the same job. Its a days job, probably less for someone more experienced with Subaru's. Labour shouldnt be more than a days work. |
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by CodeBurn3r on 13-02-11 02:22 PM Will, Clutch Fluid shouldn't get hot from slipping the clutch, the master and slave cyl are not actually near the clutch as such.
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by BigWillieStyles on 13-02-11 02:25 PM
thanks mate, will give it a go. I drove the car this afternoon, and wasnt really sure if I was imagining it. The clutch isnt slipping yet which is probably a good sign. But when I get a decent job, I will probably need to change the clutch. |
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Legacy GT-B |
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by CodeBurn3r on 13-02-11 02:49 PM Clutch can be changed at home if you pull the engine.. i think its easier pulling the engine if you are doing it at home..
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by XoN on 13-02-11 07:31 PM Yeah I would not be in a hurry to drop the box on a driveway again. Even with 4 people it's a royal pain. |
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by Cardboard Tube Samurai on 13-02-11 09:15 PM I got the Excedy clutch kit put in. Feels great to drive now, highly recommended.
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