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took the wifes car in for the $1400 100k service with a slight coolant leak to be fixed as well which i'd been monitoring to be safe. dropped off the car no probs ,got a call saying the radiator needed repairing. no probs get it done.get a call on monday saying the radiators back in but they suspect the cars done a head gasket because the temp goes straight up when they try to bleed the cooling system even though it's full of coolant.
WTF , the temp guage has never moved since we bought it, also one of the thermo fans is not working and they say contributed to the problem. when i suggested maybe air lock could have blown the head and they were to blame cause it was all good when i droped it off of course they are adamant they're not to blame.
i just don't understand , the car never ran out of coolant, the temp guage never ran hot until they got to it. what else am i suposed to think FFS.
all up for head gasket, radiator repair and the 100k servise i'm looking at $3900 . am i missing something here or what.

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Farout!! well even if it is there fault they are not going to take the blame for it. but $3900! maybe going to Subaru was your problem? Is there a possibility for you to take the car somewhere else??

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way way too late. fu#ks me i never would have thought $3900 even with the 100k service.

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Lets guess, u took it to Doncaster or Cambellwell Subi???

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Don't accept that sh*t mate - get on the phone to Subaru Australia.

F*cks me how they think they can get away with stuff like this...

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Sounds a bit suss to me mate....I would take it further.

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Subi dealership or 'other' mechanic?

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further to who? i've seen subaru blow off bigger **** than this, FFS

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further as in fair trading. **** em

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at the end of the day it comes down to my word against there's etc etc

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at the end of the day it comes down to my word against there's etc etc
Maybe - but if you can create enough noise, perhaps they would rather sort it out for you than have you rightly badmouthing them...

I am sure they have been taking a hit on sales lately with high fuel prices and the LCT - last thing they want is someone making noise about them ripping people off...

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If the headgasket has blown bad enough that the temp goes straight to hot it will be clearly evident to normal diagnostic procedures. There will be CO in the coolant and other definate tell tales. I suspect (as did you) that they have failed to completely bleed the cooling system. The first sign of this is when the temp goes to hot, the radiator will still be cold to the touch. The thermostat will not open if there's air in the system and the circulation isn't correct. I'd get your car out of there and to someone who knows what they're doing for a proper diagnosis. If you leave it there it WILL end up with a blown headgasket eventually due to them running it with air instead of coolant.

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What he said. ^^^^

What model, what engine, how many kms etc. They don't just blow headgaskets.

These "dealership blew up my car, zomg!!!!" threads are getting boring. Take the farking car out of there and get someone independant, who isn't a gimp, and knows subaru to look at it. If it's farked you have lost nothing, if you stay at the current place and take it in the date you will never know and we will have to hear the whinging that ensues.

The internet cannot fix your problem.

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today tonight, aca, newspapers, fair trading, they all love hearing this sort of ****. if it goes far enough you'll get results.

unfortunately subaru owners have to pay a premium, but dont receive the service that is paid for

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I've read enough of these threads (and dealt with enough bad dealers) to decide NEVER to take my car to Subaru...EVER. If you don't know why, just look up some of the threads by liber8ted... nuff said really... I like my car too much to leave it in the hands of those butchers...

There are some good Subie specialists around, there's bound to be a few in Melbourne, get your car to one of those guys, since they actually have an interest in solving your problem rather than simply making as much money of your ass as possible.

When they're maintained by people who know what they're doing, Subies are generally very reliable and well built cars. My dad's 1989 Gen 1 lib is (Still going fine BTW), that's why I bought one in the first place.

Best of luck mate, I hope you get it sorted :beach:

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I've actually been pleased with Subaru's service, tried out a few subaru specialists here in sydney and dissatisfied with both of them on several occasions.

Car is going back in tomorrow to get the rear diff changed under warranty.

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too late for me know, the $3900 pineapple has landed in my arse. i'll never **** the same again. i've taken up the cause with a few mobs but at the end of the day they all agree i'll have to wear it in the end.there word against mine, you cooked it,no you cooked it etc etc.
there will always be that 1% doubt in my mind which is what there living on but deep down i know i gave them the car without a blown H/G.
i'll give it one last shot tommorrow when i pick the biatch up and see how well they can put some sort of explanation of events together .

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You're picking it up tomorrow all fixed?
My advice is to arrive early, like 9AM and catch them trying to bleed the cooling system with the engine exhibiting exactly the same scenario as before they "fixed" the headgasket. Just my suspicion.

Jet, that's great Subaru are changing your diff under warranty, but therin lies part of the problem with Dealerships today. [old man voice] When I was an apprentice mechanic we would re-build gearboxes, diffs, brake calipers, radiators, steering boxes, steering pumps, you name it. We learned to weld, solder, measure stuff, diagnose things. On the rare occasion that a component was replaced the old one was always stripped and inspected as part of the training process. Now whole engines, wiring looms, transmissions etc are replaced wholesale without ever being properly dignosed, the warranty stuff gets sold by on E-bay by the guy in the dealership that did the repair FFS! Where's the incentive to learn?

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dtrally, it's like that with anything these days. It is cheaper to replace than rebuild most of the time on small things like this. My work had a workshop with all machine shop machinery and tools, now it's all gone.

All we rebuild now are huge motors/compressors where you have no option when the thing weighs a few tonne.

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I see you are online, so I'd suggest you would have an argument for them to reduce the 100K service cost. My GEN3 blew the one head gasket. I had 77KM on the clock, so the non dealer repairer did most of the 100Km service as part of the repair. 100Km service charge was basically material only as head repair (did both heads) required removal of engine, timing belt, replacement of cooling fluid etc. Total cost was $1,875.
I would also argue they should have spotted the blown head gasket before doing any other work & phone you immediately. Both a dealer & the repairer I went to had no trouble spotting the fluid leak from the head - but it needed a torch & mirror as it was on the hoist.
If you have NRMA (or whatever in VIC) membership you could involve them.

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peal;151674 wrote:

My GEN3 blew the one head gasket.
Did your temp shoot straight up to hot as described in this case? I'll bet apart from the slight coolant loss there were no other symptoms as is usually the case. I'm interested in the outcome of this as I genuinely believe they did an unnecessary repair.

Jet; I understand the economic reasons for replace rather than repair, It's purely based on cost, pity the apprentice who never sees the inside of anything technical. Smash repair has gone the same way, unfortunately skills are not being passed on to young tradies as they were.

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didn't just do a head gasket the heads were rebuilt as well  costing another $900 bucks. the 100K service was reduced to parts plus some labour but still F**K me.
complaint has been made we'll see what happens but bottom line i've been warned to wear it in the end but get this.
looking thru the itemised list and they threw out my 6 month old $120  K+N air filter as well FFS ( which i checked )wndscreen wipers thet weren't changed .
i didn't think it could get any better , so i rang and asked how stupid does a bloke have to be to do that . i've been offered free labour on my next service but i do my own and i wont be going back there again.
i'm so f***en over it.
next time MItsubishi all the way

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Bit of bad luck there, bloody hell... well Avoid dealership services like the plague, find some real mechanics.....

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o.k this is gonna hurt more than any giant pineapple in the rectum, but       ah ,,,,,,,,,, after a detailed investigation of events leading up to the blown H/G by subaru , myself and an outside source,,,etc etc ahh ,,,, well ,,,,,ahh ,,,,much as it hurts to say,,,,,,,,,,ah,,,all evidence is pointing towards uncle cracky being the main culprit and not subaru......f**k that hurts to say but i said it at least.
without going into CSI Miami detail ,,,,,,ah ,,,,thats the bottom line.
um,,,,,,,,,,yes ,,,,i am a red neck bogan,,and thats that, but at least i can admit it and chances are that i f**ked up.
yeah,,,,,,,,well,,,,,,,i,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ah,,,,,,,,,,,ah,,,,, ,,, i'm busy right now so   ah ,,,,,,,,,but ,,ah,,,,,i have to go now to,,,,,,,,,do some ,,,,,important things ya see,,,,,, so ,,,,,,,,,,bye now   :russian_r

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Come on mate, spill it... What exactly did you do/not do? :secret:

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