Hi,

Thanks mate, I figured as much. That's about as in depth as the Road Traffic Law gets - I've actually had the phrase "I can defect it as it drives off the showroom floor" thrown at me.

I just thought with all the new defect laws being thrown around (illegal coilovers etc.) that they might make the actual information available to us?

Thanks again for the suggestion, I might just get hold of the document and upload it for folks.

Cheers,
Nik

Hi again,

True call mate, it is the 'adjustable' factor that seems to be illegal, or at least defectable...? That's my trouble I guess, the fact that the info should really be readily accessible over the net.

As I understand it, coilover simply means 'coil over strut'?

Cheers for the info though mate, you should know!

Cheers,
Nik

This gets discussed on forums quite a bit, and basically what it comes down to is this.

Police, in the course of their job have to deal with a lot of ****, and almost EVERY situation you can think of, even if it's not police related or not,  they have to attempt to resolve it with a favourable outcome.

Traffic related incidents are no different. As stated before police may defect you if they believe in their eyes that the vehicle is unroadworthy. True, the vehicle may not be "illegal" but police aren't expected to be mechanics and know everything about what is illegal and what is not, as well as everythig else that they are expected to know.

All police do is defect the vehicle, which places it before a registerable authority to conduct a check on the vehicle, as police don't have the qualification / experience so to speak. If you don't like it send a letter to the RTA and get them to employ another 15, 000 RTA inspectors just to defect cars, and you'll be wishing you had the cops out there (with most of them not caring about defects).

Same as the way the criminal system works, police charge people based on police believing they have enough evidence to do so. The accused person gets placed before the court for the COURT to make a determination on the matter, because the courts are the people with the qualifications.

ADR's are available freely, but why should they be made so freely online? Go to the RTA and get a copy so you are a little more familiar if you want it so bad.

Basically in a nutshell as it has been said before, if you drive like a tool, hang out with tools, hang out at tool places, or have a ****ty attitude then expect to get defected. Because you can't dispute a defect, it's better just to shut your mouth, be polite, and you may not even get one in the first place.

So much easier that way:)

ADR's
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ … nline.aspx
Modification laws
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ … _ncop.aspx

Haha no joke. I work at immigration and even getting around our internal site is a complete pain in the a*se let alone our external website.

Engineer papers mean very little to police as they are forged so easily, and if the cop want's to you will most likely still get the defect.

Thanks for that Cam,

had a quick look and its alot of bloody pages with most of it very repetitive..

"must meet ADR rule ##"

i thought it was going to be something like
Pod filters......Illegal
Blow of Valves.....Illegal
adjustable boost controllers..illegal..

etc etc.

So what do you guys say when you get pulled over and they questions modifications that have been made?

Am i better off to just agree even if they are wrong or state my belief and argue?

ahhaha I could tell you what to say, but that is giving away secrets:secret:

Attitude is always the best plan, don't be a smartass or you'll cop it.

The thing is if your smart to a cop, you may think your good and it's all funny, the thing is they have heard it all before again and again, and it just puts you in a worse situation so to speak.