I've also thought about this but i'd rather put the money into my car.
Bike+License+rego+insurence and all the other cr@p, my car would nearly be finished to my needs.

same as above..

get a 'Busa Turbo..lol

ok think of this spend 30k on your subi = 10sec
and this: of the shelf bike 15k = 10sec

but it all depends on what u want, always keep in mind your first bike u will drop wether it in the driveway or down the road (hope not down the road it hurts)

in vic now the L.A.M.S (learner approved motorcycle scheme) system has just come in: so its about the power to weight ratio. its the same with NSW
eg:
v-twin 650 is in 2-stroke 250 is out.

just promise one thing dont b like everyone else n get a CBR250RR like every one else on their L's (its like driving a wrx with a cannon)

and if u get your L's after 3 months u can get your P's and if u have full car licence u dont need to display P's (but still restricted to LAMS and no pillion)
also .00 BAC after the first 12months of P's u can get any bike and take a pillion but still .00 BAC

I wouldn't ever mix Alcohol and a bike.
I've had  a fair amount of experience ride pushies, i realise there's a difference. But wouldn't the skills i have developed from riding freestyle, maybe lessen the chance of me dropping a bike?
Billsy, I've ridden pushies through traffic without brake's and at stupid speeds.  They don't have to see you, so long as you see them .

What would you recommend as far as first bike?
  what'sthe go as far as engine's?
I.e, do the make i4's and v-twins, i really got nfi as far as that's concerned.

  what'sa decent brand, In the jap market.
I know of Honda and Yamaha. Are there any others worth noting. Out of those two what are the major difference's that can be applied to all there bike's (If there are indeed any.)?

Thanks for your help.

No offence Frank, but you'd need a pretty decent bike these day's wouldnt you.

Cool, i'll look up the huyosung.
As for injuries, i've already got a rooted back/shoulder/arm/knee. So i doubt i'd notice anymore .

You wouldnt have any website's you could link me to would you?

but personaly im a fan of twins or V4's as i like the crack and the rumble (hence y i like the boxer engine)

thats my shoulder after the opp at the alfred.
they did a good job to fix me up was in there over night thats all

but they had to wait 2weeks for the swelling to go down before they could really work out how bad (14screws/1rod/alot of wire and plates)
but i still love bikes n saving for a new one (HONDA VTR1000SP-2) look s**t happens dont let it detur u, u can fall from a ladder or chair n do more damage.

as long as your sensable which most u guys r most of the time your fine

here is a link to a melb group they deal in learner deals it will give u an idea but huyosung is pretty good bang for buck in 250 range:    http://www.sumoto.com.au/

Nasty wound mate.
But i concur, Accidents will always happen.  I could get T-bonned in a car tomorow and die, so why spend my life worring about it.

I only intend to ride it on weeks ends, for a bit of fun. So i'd think that would cut the risks abit. 

Not that i really have much desire to do this, but whats the modding side of things like with bike's?

Adrian, I physicaly cant pedal a pushy these days. My knee is rooted and so is my back, heavy landings have me sidelined for the rest of the day in some serious pain. Thus my quest for a Bike .

are you looking to buy new or would you settle for secondhand?

i only got my licence about a year ago....and im still cruising around on my 250
i ended up getting a secondhand one because its your first bike and your bound to drop it or damage it somehow
oh..and ive got a kawasaki zxr250

my 5 cents anyhow

It really come's down to cost.
I'd be fine with a second hand bike, provided there's nothing wrong with it.

Stig, not around here mate. Its busy during the week with people going too and from work. But weekends its pretty quiet.

I started with a CR250, god rest its soul.
Then a ZR250 dropped in the wet and lucky no other cars were coming  in the other direction. Then XV750 twin, some old mole changed lanes at the worst moment. I could see she was hopeless and stayed clear of the blindspot, but thought it'd be safer to be infront of her. So just as I try to overtake her and get beside her she merges, no indicator, and nuges me into a lane of slower moving cars. Just stopped millimeters from the back of a falcon station wagon. Last straw.
So potentially close to death on so many occassions.
Fun..........sure, nothing like it, but your body is the thing that hits very solid objects. At least in a car you have something around you.
So I'll admit twice were my doing but the one I'll always remember and fear the most was not my fault.
Hang around a while Pauly, bikes are a bad idea.
I will now await SOO081 accounts of the emergency trauma ward.

thanks for joining them soop

i totaly agree with u mate it is a problem that the thing that gets hurt your fault or not is us but since when did anything worth doing not get u into trouble or scare u or hurt u.....its just something that we all accept as a byproduct of bike riding.

oh n its usally the sunday riders that tend u have the major problems (from my experance that is)
out of 8 of a few friends that started of on bikes im the only one still going all the others screwed up cos the couldnt handle the bike (even 14hp 250) one slid it out through a corner cos he wanted to do a power slide:jester: what a joker hahahahaha twat.