Liberty 3L H6 supercharger kit world first
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Liberty 3L H6 supercharger kit world first |
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by eaturbo on 22-02-09 11:11 AM Hi Guys, we are looking at developing a supercharger kit in conjunction with Raptor superchargers for the Liberty 3L H6 engine. I have always wanted to do something like this with the flat 6. Now with 180kw we are looking for a 300kw end result or better depending on how it responds. We will look at intercooled and non intercooled versions. My question to you all is do you think there is a market for this kit. you can buy an 05 liberty 3.0r B for $27000 with the STI 6 speed and I think it will make bulk torque. The kit would be around $5000 depending on what problems we face with injectors and pump. I am ready to buy a liberty to start R&D as we have just started a new subaru business in Mackay called Subaru Solutions. Can you give me some feedback please, this is not a guarantee that we will proceed but no one in the world does anything and it seams a waste, Thanks for you feedback |
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by befour on 22-02-09 11:17 AM Have you looked into things such as the compression ratio these engines run?
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"6"If You Want More Inch's, Stroke It
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by billsy on 22-02-09 11:48 AM
without running methanol or C16 your going to have problems with the high compression ratios these engines run. but if you can get a 200+ kw (at the wheels) kit, youd probably sell a few around that price, providing they retained general reliability |
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by eaturbo on 22-02-09 12:20 PM They run 10.7:1 same as a HSV or FPV GT and they blow them so it will be 6 or 7psi. Nothing is to hard if you want to do it. |
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by fatcat67 on 22-02-09 02:38 PM Make up a full turbo kit instead.
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Past: MY00 WRX
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by Kosti on 22-02-09 03:25 PM Just add twin turbo's then well over 250KW!!
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by sheppo9 on 22-02-09 03:46 PM Not really a "World First" either, COBB did it years ago to the 3l Tribeca engine. |
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Nothing to see here.... |
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by eaturbo on 22-02-09 03:53 PM Turbo would be good but it gets to dear and things get real hot under bonnet. You need turbo drain and **** loads of pipe work. Supercharger has no oil supply and is cheap. Cobb did not sell there kit did they just did a one off. Anyway this is for Australia for us here just looking for interest |
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by regashi on 22-02-09 05:11 PM Oh no. |
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by TTFN on 22-02-09 06:11 PM Where exactly is it going to fit? |
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by eaturbo on 22-02-09 07:19 PM Look this is just to guage what people think, Im not worrried about room yet as where there's a will theres a way. If you all think it's a waste of time than we will scrap the idea. Raptor already does a NA RS blower kit here in Aus and it hangs off to the side so the H6 takes up the same amount of room as far as side ways goes it just longer. The rule of thumb is that 14psi on an NA engine usuallly doubles power. So 14psi would be 360kw so 7psi would be about 270kw so our goal would be 300 with some tuning and the fact that 200kw is achieveable with STD engine with a tune. Can anyone imagine what 300kw in a liberty would be like with a high flow exhaust and a boxer 6 growl. I am alittle surprised that you guys aren't keen on this |
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by hawks123 on 22-02-09 07:34 PM Put a turbo on it, not a supercharger. |
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If it's Broke, Use a Cable Tie. |
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by JZK25 on 23-02-09 06:15 AM
How many RS impreza's are actually running with a blower? |
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Cheers. Al. :big_boss: |
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by JUXT on 23-02-09 08:37 AM I reckon it may be worth a try...
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by eaturbo on 23-02-09 04:28 PM Our company is a HDT dealer and we have a mainline 4wd dyno, we have fitted plenty of blowers and turbo kits. This will be our first go at such a task. Raptor superchargers has developed a blower kit for the NA RS as in his words " I make the blowers already so now its just a matter of making fitting kits. I have never seen an engine that can't be forced inducted. You name an engine and someone has blown or turboed it. If we all agree that the subaru engines respond well to boost and the H6 has variable cam timing and timing chains instead of belts. They also have high strength conrods similar to an STI conrod and shot peened rings. I reckon the H6 has been left by the way side. You search the internet and there is nothing on them. The kits will be like most blower and turbo kits, it will have all the parts required to do the job but it will be your responsibilty to see that it is correctly fitted and tuned. I maybe just do a one off for myself and see how it goes, at least i will get to enjoy the torque and surprise a few people on the street. |
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by JZK25 on 23-02-09 08:32 PM That black RS impreza ate engines for breakfast. It was killing engines with 8;1 compression let alone 10.7:1.
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Cheers. Al. :big_boss: |
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by eaturbo on 24-02-09 07:07 PM No I'm not talking about the black impreza, If you look at raptors web site they have a silver one here in Mackay that we tuned. The dynograph is on there as well and it was 124awkw i think. That would have to be close to a WRX. It has been going no probs at all. The black one was a raptor blower that the guy fitted to his own car. The silver one is developed by Raptor himself ans it is his daily driver. |
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by beeradd on 24-02-09 07:19 PM
a turbo would be far superior to a supercharger kit. superchargers, are only ideal if there is absolutely no space available. a garret gt28 series turbo would be killer on such an engine in a low boost application. when you consider the exhaust flow of a N/A 3 litre, there would be little to no loss of torque against a s/charger. with superior outright performance to boot. i'm tired of people confusing linear power delivery with torque! |
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by mwjp71 on 28-03-09 02:53 PM I think some of the repsonses you have recieved are from immature NEVILLE's who a are simply lacking knowledge. |
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by mwjp71 on 28-03-09 02:57 PM Great idea. I posted my response earlier in the thread. |
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by Blaeven on 28-03-09 04:53 PM i drive an H6 and despite the fact that i could make more power with a turbo, i like being able to pull a car load of people up a hill doing under 2000rpm... a supercharger kit would enhance the already powerful torque curve of the H6... |
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by eaturbo on 29-03-09 08:06 AM Well due to the lack of interest we have shelved the idea for now. We may do it later on. We had the guy with the blower keen and he was ready to make the bracket as well but due to all the negative feed back why would we bother. We may look at this again down the track and for those not interested well who cares, it seams most of the responses were from 4 cyc guys anyway. |
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by beeradd on 29-03-09 07:15 PM
most mature liberty drivers that choose h6 fitted liberty's, then complain that they can only obtain 10% performance gains, should re-evaluate the reason they chose the h6 option over the turbo fitted model in the 1st place! i would also argue(having either driven or been in,h6,2.5 na,2.5 turbo and 2.0 sti turbo) that the ez30r is a far more dartier and rev happy motor than a boxer 4. |
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by Blaeven on 29-03-09 11:11 PM
Fknoath the h6 likes to rev... Just ask anyone who has gone for a drive in my car
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by regashi on 29-03-09 11:28 PM
was meaning to tell you Tristan. Stop Valve bouncing your car at cruises, especially whilst stationary. You look like a retard. Not cool. |
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