its all fake...

its natures cycle, global warming is just drummed up by a bunch of "tree hugging, dole bludging hippies" (A bit of eric cartman there)

odeo wrote:

...you forgot wagon drivers.

hahaha, yes.. sorry.. :ninja:

In saying all this, we've never raped the atmosphere as bad as we have in the last, say, 50-100 years...who know's what effect or on what scale our atmo-raping (new catch phrase) will have in another 100, 200 or 500 years.

I'm not saying its a global catastrophy just yet, but we really don't have any benchmark as to what will happen in the future.

Hey there "plays with toys"

You're asking the wrong bunch of people obviously. All the majority of these guys think about it is the next few horse power they can get.

Here's my two cents, over 90% of the worlds most respected scientists are convinced that global warming is mostly being caused by our ever increasing emissions and dwindling forests around the world. And the majority of countries in the developed world agree. America is the only developed country not to sign the Kyoto protocol to stem emissions, and this is because the large petroleum corporations have been doing a great job in convincing Americans its a scam. But as the other dude said, why risk it, wouldn't you rather live in a cleaner world and make sure theres a future for our kids? Our previous government has just been booted, and thats partcially because they stuck their heads in the sand on climate change like Bush has done.

Merry Christmas

RPM wrote:

Hey there "plays with toys"

You're asking the wrong bunch of people obviously. All the majority of these guys think about it is the next few horse power they can get.

Here's my two cents, over 90% of the worlds most respected scientists are convinced that global warming is mostly being caused by our ever increasing emissions and dwindling forests around the world. And the majority of countries in the developed world agree. America is the only developed country not to sign the Kyoto protocol to stem emissions, and this is because the large petroleum corporations have been doing a great job in convincing Americans its a scam. But as the other dude said, why risk it, wouldn't you rather live in a cleaner world and make sure theres a future for our kids? Our previous government has just been booted, and thats partcially because they stuck their heads in the sand on climate change like Bush has done.

Merry Christmas

Patronising remarks, appealing to authority and saying "better not risk it" doesn't make much of an argument.

I suggest YOU pull YOUR head out the sand.

RPM wrote:

Now boys, don't get personal. I've voted for both parties in the past, never been on the dole, or hugged a tree (thou I did dance with one that I thought was a person when maggotted at a Thailand beach, another story), and I have a hot wife and 4 kids, so I don't think the lesbian thing fits either.
Why don't you do some scientific research on the net and dissprove global warming?

:bye:

I felt like ripping on someone, and you were my scapegoat.. handled it very well by the way !, I like this bloke :friends:

I am not afraid of healthy debate, just check out my username. But I think threads such as these, which as proven here always end up as politically charged personal opinions, should be left off of a car forum.

Carry on.

Cheers,
Nik

RPM wrote:

Hey there "plays with toys"

You're asking the wrong bunch of people obviously. All the majority of these guys think about it is the next few horse power they can get.

Here's my two cents, over 90% of the worlds most respected scientists are convinced that global warming is mostly being caused by our ever increasing emissions and dwindling forests around the world. And the majority of countries in the developed world agree. America is the only developed country not to sign the Kyoto protocol to stem emissions, and this is because the large petroleum corporations have been doing a great job in convincing Americans its a scam. But as the other dude said, why risk it, wouldn't you rather live in a cleaner world and make sure theres a future for our kids? Our previous government has just been booted, and thats partcially because they stuck their heads in the sand on climate change like Bush has done.

Merry Christmas

Now see, I think there are a few issues which can be seperated and I think many can agree on.

The climate is changing.

and

Technology is growing rapidly.

I think that our emissions and waste definately have an impact on what is going on. Whether they are the root cause, I'm not sure, and as stated, some of the most respected scientists have staked there name and reputation in that belief, and that holds merit in my book. Now, as far as technology I think it is irresponsible of us and honestly it's just bad business practice to not make technology more efficient. Why settle for gas guzzling V8's? My friend told me about a project that I think ford or lincoln did in the 70's using atomizing fans in the carburetor of a large town car. It averaged over 50 miles to the gallon in the city, which compared to the dismal 22-28 I get in my car, and the even more dismal 12-18 american cars get nowadays it just doesn't make sense. How can engine technology not have improved in 30 years? There is a local brewery in town that recaptures steam from it's fermenters and such and gets back 15% of it's total power consumption. The other 85% comes from windpower, and because of this efficiency in production it has actually created greater profit.

So if global climate change is a result of humans or not, doesn't stop the fact that it is happening and we should start to think of how we will deal with it, and further more, we should be looking at progressing technology that is not wasteful.

Suprauc wrote:

No Smog where i live

None here either - guess that's one benifit of living in the worlds most isolated city

And if there wrong?

If we keep going at the rate we are, yes i agree its not a good thing.

But i do think that climate change is a load of crap. Just somthing new for the scientist to bash on about, an excuse to get paid for BS...

But then you get a wang surgicaly attached to your forehead.