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I just stumbled across this sweet looking gen 2
GEN 2

Pity he is asking a fair bit!

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$27K for a bastardchild "GTB"?

She looks nice, yes, but I can't see why $27K should be spend on this, when it no longer has the GTB interior (and downgrade to WRX seats from JDM Recaros)

Rebuilt engine (abused JDM example I assume)
So does it have the factory Bilstein Suspension? Or Tein Coilovers?

And what's this "Unfinished Business"?


I smell a rat.

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Ive seen this on carsales a little while ago. looks nice, but waaaaaay overpriced.

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Methinks they're getting rid of it due to not being able to handle the POWA!!!

Check out the stain on the drivers seat.

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Thats Kristens car (thats a she not a he)
its the best example of a GTB that i have seen.
its had a full strip down respray to change the colour and lots of other custom work done.

the engine was rebuilt because of noisy piston slap not a failure.
and its been pretty well nannad as far as i know. stock boost i think still.
also i think theyre Tein superstreet coilovers not billies

nothing dodgy about it, except it is well above market value. when i spoke to her last she said the price was fairly neg.

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gee that is one sexy GTB defo not worth 27k. may she has upped the pirce to see who will offer the highest amount.

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So why was the interior retrimmed?

Why has the originality of the car been compromised?

is she selling it with the billies, or the coilovers? As she mentioned as the car having both in the ad!

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"have plenty of spares, Factory bilstein suspension,"
I guess that means they come with.

What monetary value would "Compromising the originality" make to a 10yr old Jap import?
No snide remark here, just I seriously can't see it making a huge difference.

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I like the overall wagon bar rims, just not the price.

I even think 20k would be stretching the imagination.

One recent member here bought a gtb, i remember looking at it on carsales. 100% unmodified bar rfrb grille, low kays sold for 15.5K i think.

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tell her she's dreeeamin' lol

would be a good buy for $8-10k less.

custom interior? i think my $20 job looks better.

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Soop wrote:


What monetary value would "Compromising the originality" make to a 10yr old Jap import?
No snide remark here, just I seriously can't see it making a huge difference.
Because its such a rare care here (seriously, how many GTB's are the in Oz? Less than 20 for sure? 10 maybe even?), I think to maintain their value, they should be preserved as much as possible. Replacement parts are also seldom available, which I believe, would add to the value of the car if as much as of the original car is conserved as possible.

But you drive a bastardized GX-R, so you wouldn't understand.

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Put it this way.
I think that car will sell for around 15-20k.
About what an original would.

I don't think you can really preserve their price either, their worth will drop with age.

No need for the BS snide comments either...

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SOO081;116197 wrote:

Because its such a rare care here (seriously, how many GTB's are the in Oz? Less than 20 for sure? 10 maybe even?), I think to maintain their value, they should be preserved as much as possible. Replacement parts are also seldom available, which I believe, would add to the value of the car if as much as of the original car is conserved as possible.

But you drive a bastardized GX-R, so you wouldn't understand.
well said soo81....

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SOO081;116099 wrote:

So why was the interior retrimmed?
Personal touch? Didn't like the original look? Why do chicks buy shoes for each outfit?? Without asking the seller who the **** knows? Even asking the seller you'll probably come out knowing the same amount as you do now.

Any car is only worth what someone will pay for it. I guess they didn't factor in that most mods you do you don't get your money back on.

:Pardon:

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Kevlar GT;116229 wrote:

Personal touch? Didn't like the original look? Why do chicks buy shoes for each outfit?? Without asking the seller who the **** knows? Even asking the seller you'll probably come out knowing the same amount as you do now.

Any car is only worth what someone will pay for it. I guess they didn't factor in that most mods you do you don't get your money back on.

:Pardon:
I only ask as I think the determining factor for an import is to see how intact the interior is. Its an unusual one for the GTB, and to only see it ripped out, and retrimmed with generic WRX seats and fabric, would only drop its value IMHO.

Genuine point of discussion. I'm not interested in so much so as to why they did it, but what justified it. Would you retrim the interior on a Gen IV STi simply because it didn't suit your taste?

Soop - Take it as you will. Kinda like bastardising your old boy's original HQ Monaro by putting in a VX interior...

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SOO081;116284 wrote:

Would you retrim the interior on a Gen IV STi simply because it didn't suit your taste?
Hypothetically speaking if I had a stack of expendable income and it didn't suit my taste then maybe I guess. Plenty of cars out there that have had the guts ripped out and things changed for the individuals tastes. You just got to grab a copy of fast fours or autosalon mag to see that.

I know guys that have replaced the STi rims on their cars and I think that detracts from the value of the car but they obviously don't.

Some things don't need justification except from the person that is forking out the dollars and doing the change. Maybe they didn't think the interior was that good or realise the rarity of it and thought the rexie stuff would be more recognisable for a sale??

You say "tomayto" I say "tomardo" (phonetics of course).

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Kevlar GT;116307 wrote:

Hypothetically speaking if I had a stack of expendable income and it didn't suit my taste then maybe I guess. Plenty of cars out there that have had the guts ripped out and things changed for the individuals tastes. You just got to grab a copy of fast fours or autosalon mag to see that.

I know guys that have replaced the STi rims on their cars and I think that detracts from the value of the car but they obviously don't.

Some things don't need justification except from the person that is forking out the dollars and doing the change. Maybe they didn't think the interior was that good or realise the rarity of it and thought the rexie stuff would be more recognisable for a sale??

You say "tomayto" I say "tomardo" (phonetics of course).
You can argue it until the cows come home, or when the big lady sings.

You change the interior, you compromise the car's originality, you decrease the value of the car, and decrease the attractability of the car. People are going to want to buy cars that haven't been meddled with, for whatever reason.

The Gen2 GTB is a very rare car in Australia, and by significantly changing the interior, in my humble opinion, drops the value of the car quite a lot.

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You can argue it until the cows come home, or when the big lady sings.

You change the interior, you compromise the car's originality, you decrease the value of the car, and decrease the attractability of the car. People are going to want to buy cars that haven't been meddled with, for whatever reason.

The Gen2 GTB is a very rare car in Australia, and by significantly changing the interior, in my humble opinion, drops the value of the car quite a lot.
I tend to agree with you Alex.

The GT wagon is a pretty rare car, albeit an older jap import one. If I was looking for one of these, I would look for one that was original spec - as would most people I suppose.

Given that this one has a few bits and pieces added, whether they are an improvement or not, puts a question mark over the vehicles history.

I think that the important thing ot note here is that the seller is asking top dollar for a car which, although looks in great condition, is not original.

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Lucky for me I am not in the market, it's not an argument at all, just adding to the discussion. I couldn't care less as it is not a car I would be interested in. I am sure the seller will find out in the long run that they have done the wrong thing when they don't get the money they are after unless some wide eyed gumby snaps it up.

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Kevlar GT wrote:

Lucky for me I am not in the market, it's not an argument at all, just adding to the discussion. I couldn't care less as it is not a car I would be interested in. I am sure the seller will find out in the long run that they have done the wrong thing when they don't get the money they are after unless some wide eyed gumby snaps it up.
No argument indeed! Just a good old chat on a forum mate....

Love the comment about the wide eyed gumby! Too true mate, too true. The unfortunate truth about cars like this is that they are either snapped up by an someone that is going to love it and honour it for what it is, or some wood duck that is going to turn it into and auto salon nightmare.

Let's hope it goes to a good home!

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Daaamnn!!!
No offence to any Gen2 wagon owners but thats the best example i've ever seen.
Heres the bigger and better brother, also very hot. Sh1t pics though
http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/pr … p;trecs=20

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^^^^^

Link added so you don't have to copy and paste!

CLICK HERE

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Bigger pics on that beast would be handy, the mini micro shots provide are a waste of bandwidth as they don't show sweet f.a.

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SOO081;116313 wrote:

You can argue it until the cows come home, or when the big lady sings.

You change the interior, you compromise the car's originality, you decrease the value of the car, and decrease the attractability of the car. People are going to want to buy cars that haven't been meddled with, for whatever reason.

The Gen2 GTB is a very rare car in Australia, and by significantly changing the interior, in my humble opinion, drops the value of the car quite a lot.
True but there are people out there who might like retrimmed interior more than the original interior. Doesn't changing anything on the car reduce the value and originality anyway?

The price is very hopeful but there are people out there willing to pay above market value for something they want even if its not 100% original. If you have the money then why not?

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God the exterior of that is an awesome example of a VERY clean gen2....

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