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I was always jealous of my mate who drove an s13 silvia.

partially cos his SR20 conversion ment his car was fast as all hell

and partially cos he was always talking about swapping his front end with an s15 front

his brother even put an s13 front on his 180sx


i guess my question is this:

if i have a gen2 but find the gen4 much more attractive (not that i do) how hard is it to swap the front end of a liberty to another gen...??

also, how hard is it to swap with an impreza or fozza...??

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There was a post on here of a GenI ( think it was a genI ) that had a genIV front on it.. Was a lime green POS from memory...

I'll try to find it...

But in answer to your questions.. Dunno! As you already know, it'll be bloody hard and even more expensive...

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WhiteRX;135111 wrote:

There was a post on here of a GenI ( think it was a genI ) that had a genIV front on it.. Was a lime green POS from memory...
I'll try to find it...
But in answer to your questions.. Dunno! As you already know, it'll be bloody hard and even more expensive...
Think it was a gen2 that was on carsales for 30k or something stupid.
It looked inbred and probably cost more to do than just buying a used gen4 anyway :Pardon:

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Blaeven wrote:

I was always jealous of my mate who drove an s13 silvia.

partially cos his SR20 conversion ment his car was fast as all hell

and partially cos he was always talking about swapping his front end with an s15 front

his brother even put an s13 front on his 180sx


i guess my question is this:

if i have a gen2 but find the gen4 much more attractive (not that i do) how hard is it to swap the front end of a liberty to another gen...??

also, how hard is it to swap with an impreza or fozza...??
A few questions?

What are you referring to when you're talking about "swapping the front end"?

1. If you're talking about swapping the panels, bars and the sort. Forget about it because they're completely different platforms - and if that's the case I'm going to pretend that I never ever came across this thread.

2. If you're talking about swapping engine, gearbox... well drive train and the sort, yes this is possible depending on what you plan on running? From memory (and don't quote me because I seldom visit), I think it was Az over at RSLC who has put an EZ30 into a GenII Outback, blower and all. There will be a few hurdles here and there, but if you're looking at doing motor and gearbox stuff, you might want to swing by RSLC and run it by them there. I don't think anybody knows better than those lot do.


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There was a post on here of a GenI ( think it was a genI ) that had a genIV front on it.. Was a lime green POS from memory...

I'll try to find it...

But in answer to your questions.. Dunno! As you already know, it'll be bloody hard and even more expensive...
... and very silly.

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i was talking about swapping panels and the like...

it can be done in a silvia, why would it be silly to ask if it could be done on a liberty???

regarding the engine/drivetrain swap...

i know that can be done... i'm actually thinking about going flat 6 when i can afford it...

i've already spoken to sunspares and they have an EZ30 for sale at about $2.4k i think...

the only problem is: the law in nsw says no engine modifications till ur on ur full licence...

i would consider replacing the engine a pretty major modification...

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Oh dear...

Why don't you just buy a GENIV?

You should compare a GENIV and a GENI first, and you might want to check that "law" about "engine modifications", too.

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i don't have a gen1

i love my gen2

i can't afford a gen4

and how do you mean i should check the law...????

have you heard different???

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Gen2 RX front bar FTW!

Soooo much easier and wont look like arse. big_smile

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subaru's aren't as easy as most jdm cars to do conversions on, they can be done but it will cost you. i have helped out with a few different nissan conversions but the lines tend to still look original.

not so on the subaru's......
this is what happens when you put a gen4 front on a gen2.
http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/private/3496117.jpg
http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/private/3496104.jpg
http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/private/3496128.jpg

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$40 will also get you a bottle of vodka/Jagermeister/etc or a slab of beer*. A short-shifter will do dick-all on your cars except give you something else to put in your sig. You could also spend your money better by inserting the $40 up your own arse. You'd certainly get more out of it that way.

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what Iorion is trying to say is that its not as easy as swapping panels.

the 180sx and silvia are all based on the same chassis whereas liberty's are not.

The only conversions you can do are chance in series (gen1 S2 front on a Gen1 S1)..

you cannot simply swap different generation panels... they are DIFFERENT.

save your coin and buy a Gen4.. we got one for 19.5k.

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WTF???

WHY?

it will just ruin the sexiness off a gen2...mate go buy a nissan and do that to it.....

Are you a leb?

no offence but that is just the dumbest thing ive read

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i wasn't even saying i was going to do it....

man, you guys (almost all of you) always jump to conclusions...

i was just wondering if it was possible...

i've also seen that gen2/4... and it does look like arse... but it could be done better, even though it would probably still look like arse...

i'm not a leb, and i don't have 19k for a gen4... my gen2 cost me $7400, so i'm not exactly rolling in money...

now please excuse me for being curious...

i'm sick of being flamed for asking harmless questions...

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Blaeven;135323 wrote:

i wasn't even saying i was going to do it....

man, you guys (almost all of you) always jump to conclusions...

i was just wondering if it was possible...

i've also seen that gen2/4... and it does look like arse... but it could be done better, even though it would probably still look like arse...

i'm not a leb, and i don't have 19k for a gen4... my gen2 cost me $7400, so i'm not exactly rolling in money...

now please excuse me for being curious...

i'm sick of being flamed for asking harmless questions...
sorry bud did'n mean to come across as a flame, just posting some pictures of what i have seen. my personal opinion if i had the money to do a conversion (which i dont coz i am a student..lol), i would prob go for a after market kit from overseas for the gen 2 or i would sell my rs and get a r32 gtr and go widebody r34 conversion..sexiness. anyway thats just my thought on it. thats just my 2c's
peace

this what i mean:
http://www.garage-13.com/3432.jpg
http://www.garage-13.com/3432b.jpg

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Marv;127557 wrote:

$40 will also get you a bottle of vodka/Jagermeister/etc or a slab of beer*. A short-shifter will do dick-all on your cars except give you something else to put in your sig. You could also spend your money better by inserting the $40 up your own arse. You'd certainly get more out of it that way.

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http://pandadan.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/noob.jpg

Ban.

Ban ban bannity mcban ban. With extra cheese.

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Regashi & Subarujunkie, In the corner now!, don't come out till you know what you did wrong.

there will be no more flaming you lot!

he asked a question, he did not state that he is going to do it, or even planned to do it, he clearly states he loves his gen II as it is. (god know's why.. its not a gen III).

Kapish?..


Spanks!
Brendan.

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Don't make me get the delete stick out!!

He was asking a question out of curiosity, now if someone else wants to ask the same question they have an answer!!

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Ban.


For such stupid and evil thoughts.


And comparing subarus to the likes of a datsun. (and yeah, I do know once upon a time that Fuji Heavy industries.....)

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XXB4XX wrote:

Regashi & Subarujunkie, In the corner now!, don't come out till you know what you did wrong.

there will be no more flaming you lot!

he asked a question, he did not state that he is going to do it, or even planned to do it, he clearly states he loves his gen II as it is. (god know's why.. its not a gen III).

Kapish?..


Spanks!
Brendan.
+1 smile

We were all "n00bs" once too.

The question Blaeven asked just took me back to the times of kids with N/As asking for God to bless them with horsepower with their aftermarket canon and podfilters, alike.

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ok, while i am 19, i would hardly consider myself a noob... i've done reasonably sensible modifications to my car and never expected anything big from an ej22... i'm not one of those "lets put a pod on the engine and draw in hot air and expect 5kw in the process"

as i have said before, i was just asking a question. is not the purpose of a forum to ask questions, get answers, hear oppinions and the like. i for one, have found it to be rather helpful.

i don't want to swap a gen4 front on my car, i never said i did... perhaps if i better worded my question, people wouldn't feel the need to be such assholes (regashi)...

so here goes:

theoretically, and i'm not saying i want to do it (for those who like to flame), how difficult is it to replace the front panels on a gen 2 liberty with those from a later model or another subaru?

i know it can be done with nissans as i've seen silvias with skyline front ends, and i think it would be very individual to have a different front end on a gen2. and so long as it was done right, it might not even end up looking like a massive pile of sh!t (which i'm sure many of you would think it would anyway), and would make for a pretty individual show car.

i also know that anything can be done with money, and i now know that subaru panels aren't interchangable. so you don't even have to answer my question (which i've really just asked twice now)

and btw, for those that care (though i'm begining to think that apparently everyones oppinion but mine counts) if i had 19k it wouldn't be spent on a subaru, it would go straight into a r32 GTS (damn no turbos law)

and regashi, i'm so sick of you, do you have to be such an ass all your life...?

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When Regashi turns 17 in a fortnight, he's going to get his Ps and drive over to your house to kick your a**e like the good little e-thug he is.

You have been warned.

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Reminds me of the Bee Racing 342R featured in Hot Option (or maybe it was BMI) on the Touge Monster Challenge.

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^^ notice the Bee-R plate on that R32? wink

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Oh wait, my bad (dumbass) read the number plate, it IS the Bee R342, thats a beastly unit if i say so myself chaps...and i reckon strawberry faces (not sileighty, S13 arse, S15 face) looks very sweet, but only when they have a mild appearance, wild lebanese riveted on bodykits of URAS snowplows look awful.

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Bugger, you got to me before i had time to correct my own stupidity.

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CAZB4;135470 wrote:

Oh wait, my bad (dumbass) read the number plate, it IS the Bee R342, thats a beastly unit if i say so myself chaps...and i reckon strawberry faces (not sileighty, S13 arse, S15 face) looks very sweet, but only when they have a mild appearance, wild lebanese cable tied on bodykits of URAS snowplows look awful.
Fixed for you smile

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