Economic driving styles

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Is it economical to accelerate slow to 60, shifting at 2k rpm or accelerate at a more normal pace, max shift at 3k rpm?

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2 k! How long does it take you to get 60?

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I figure keeping the car as close to the torque peak as possible while accelerating would work best for economy.

But I shift up past the load point when I can. And deliberately hold the car down a gear in tunnels. It ends up having a 0.1-0.2L/00km effect on my car anyway.

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This morning I tried a little experiment. Didn't know this thread was up though

Anyway, filled up this morning and was watching the average consumption meter to see how bad it would start off with the stop/start traffic on Parramatta Rd. A few km down the road I noticed it shoot from 12.2 up to 13.8 accelerating up a slight incline to 60km/h. I was just driving it as normal (for me) - changing up a bit over 2k. By the time I had gotten to the next set of lights it had dropped back to 12.2 again so I thought "let's see how high this baby will get WOT in 1st through to 60". I ended up shifting up at 50km/h, to second, 4th and into 5th pretty quickly afterwards to cruise at 60. Astonishing thing for me was that it only got up to 13.0.

Only reason I can think of is that the second time I spent less time accelerating (I'd say 1/3 to 1/4 of the time) allowing me to get back to a cruising throttle opening in a high gear earlier.

Now, I don't think I'll be nailing it at every set of lights but I sure won't be pissing about anymore off a standstill

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WaspHunter;161776 wrote:

I figure keeping the car as close to the torque peak as possible while accelerating would work best for economy.

But I shift up past the load point when I can. And deliberately hold the car down a gear in tunnels. It ends up having a 0.1-0.2L/00km effect on my car anyway.
Isn't peak at like 4k though? Seems a bit risque.  If I speed it probably shifts at 4k and thats been getting me terrible economy. I'll try at 3k and see what happens.


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2 k! How long does it take you to get 60?
I only do it when there's nobody behind me. Takes quite a while...

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I think the best way is to make sure you aren't loading the engine to high hell in high gears while going slow, sometimes early shifting can be terrible for econemy because you then have to use more throttle in the next gear up to get it accelerating at a decent pace.

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aurelius;161821 wrote:

Isn't peak at like 4k though? Seems a bit risque.  If I speed it probably shifts at 4k and thats been getting me terrible economy. I'll try at 3k and see what happens.

3600 I think. I pay more attention to driving smoothly through the traffic than trying to move off at a certain rate.

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Ive found that the best way to increase economy is to drive smoothly - not slow or at set shift points, just be smooth. I find that increasing the throttle with rpm rather than stomping on the pedal or being a nana and not providing enough pedal to be the most effective. Also increasing brake pressure the more the car slows rather than lightly braking over a longer distance or braking at the last minute works well. I get about 8-9l per 100km out of my tt when i drive like this.

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i usually change up each gear at 3,000rpm car seems to like it used to do 3,500rpm but would be nearly screaming at me most ive ever punched is 4,500 & it was screaming then spose doing 80 in 3rd then 4th-5th(going up to 100).
mines stock except for new exhaust.
might try bit les revs see how i go with fuel.
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Out of my 2.2 auto,
It loves the foot to the floor and shooting up to 100ks :Pardon: (for highway driving) Doing it this way, also feels like its cleaning out the cob webs wink
Around town, I try getting the car changing when I hear the perfect burble, which in my car is at about 2100-2300.

But I agree with what a couple have said before me, smooth driving and feeling the load of the car is the best way to know when to change.

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Neutral down hills!

Sure to save petrol! :crazy:

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This thread is full of fail. Go buy a Prius.

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Metalwagon;163486 wrote:

Neutral down hills!

Sure to save petrol! :crazy:
I've heard that leaving it in gear going down a hill uses no petrol. While in neutral
the car is using petrol to idle.

The movement of the car is turning the motor over.  The amount the engine is reving does not translate directly to the amount of fuel being used

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hawks123;163600 wrote:

I've heard that leaving it in gear going down a hill uses no petrol. While in neutral
the car is using petrol to idle.

The movement of the car is turning the motor over. The amount the engine is reving does not translate directly to the amount of fuel being used
oh wow thats heaps interesting..  ill quit the silly idea then

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it does depend on the type of transmission too. I wouldn't be surprised if, downhill, an auto is actually just as economical in neutral as in drive. Bloody torque converters. Manuals however (in particular newer EFI vehicles) will use next to no fuel when engine braking

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