cure for tt VOD i think i found it

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hey guys i no u probs gona think this is crazy and i will get alot of sh**t people sayin it aint tru but it appears with my car i have found a cure for the VOD

any way time to explain its pretty simple really i was sick of people givin me s**t sayin im a w**nker for puttin a wrx scoop on a liberty i have a gen 2 legacy TT so i decided to go get a BOV so simply i removed the standard BOV on the passenger side put in a small turbo smart one that bolted up to my standard TMIC and pluged up the hole in the plenum with a shinny silver cap took it out for a spin and to my suprise no vod just a pause for not even half a second so i went to one of my mates and asked him for an explanation. we put the original bov back on with the plenum still pluged up and we found when the turbos started to top out the standard bov would leak pressure. any way from wat i can tell the turbo smart bov holds the pressure bettter and ups the exaust pressure reducing VOD just thought i would let u guys no any other opinions explaining this would be good

i can also post up pics later if any one wants

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VOD= what exactly?

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valley of death its the lag between the 2 turbos on the ej20tt

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Thanx... Just out of curiousity are you running the jap spec tt if so what octane rating is the fuel you use?

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I don't think it would be that easy...

maybe the original bov was faulty or broken, what boost are you running?

and whats the shinny silver cap you used to plug the hole..??
perhaps post some pics up to have a look..

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sorry, I'm here to bust that myth.

No, plugging up the BOV lines (removing the BOV) doesn't do terribly much, other than create a little flutter (if you have a pod) caused by the pressurised air to circle back through the spinning turbo.

Personally, when I set my BOV on its hardest setting, I noticed that my car ran like absolute crap. If anything, for me, it increased the VOD by another 300-500rpm!

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Im pretty sure he's saying that he has fitted an aftermarket Ext-Vent BOV to the car and has plugged up the Plumb-back hose...

not removed the BOV line...

It may have reduced the VOD if the original valve was leaking pressure.

I'm fairly certain this is not going to fix the problem on most cars, i think more likely, your original valve was not functioning correctly, so there is a vast improvement on your car.

Still, its a nice feeling when your car starts running significantly better when you do something that seems so minimal! :victory:

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Its the nature of the beast, it cannot be removed, reduced or moved is your only option, but never eliminated :victory:

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I'm with the above, I very much doubt you've gotten rid of it entirely.
I think you'd find that if you got a dyno graph you'd still be able to see the VOD, even if you don't feel it as much any more.

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XoN wrote:

I'm with the above, I very much doubt you've gotten rid of it entirely.
I think you'd find that if you got a dyno graph you'd still be able to see the VOD, even if you don't feel it as much any more.
do you own TT?





hmmm?


why are you here?

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When I fitted my AVO BOV I noticed a small reduction in VOD, I think it was more the aftermarket BOV held boost more consistently in the transition between turbos giving the feeling the VOD was reduced

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SOO081 wrote:

do you own TT?
hmmm?
why are you here?
What has me owning a TT got to do with the price of fish?

Do you own a rotary? If not, going by your logic, why do you continue to post about them?

Why don't you pull the tampon out of your ass and go find something better to do than run around being a keyboard warrior.

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XoN wrote:

What has me owning a TT got to do with the price of fish?

Do you own a rotary? If not, going by your logic, why do you continue to post about them?

Why don't you pull the tampon out of your ass and go find something better to do than run around being a keyboard warrior.
I own one but who is talking about rotar's anyway?

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XoN wrote:

What has me owning a TT got to do with the price of fish?

Do you own a rotary? If not, going by your logic, why do you continue to post about them?

Why don't you pull the tampon out of your ass and go find something better to do than run around being a keyboard warrior.
My point, Sharlene, is that you have zero tech experience with the TT, yet you continue to post in TT tech specific threads.

Its becoming rather annoying, I do say.

My advice is: post about what you do know, not on hearsay.

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C'mon guys, don't fuk this thread up. I'm interested to know what others think on this one, because I think a dyno may show the VOD is still there, but the improvement found by fitting the new BOV may have improved it to the point where its not too noticable to a noob to the TT.

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fatcat67 wrote:

C'mon guys, don't fuk this thread up. I'm interested to know what others think on this one, because I think a dyno may show the VOD is still there, but the improvement found by fitting the new BOV may have improved it to the point where its not too noticable to a noob to the TT.
I have also done this and there is a slight improvement but its has not completely removed the VOD.

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You have just fixed a problem. The car is now running as it should.
From standstill accelleration there should be nothing more than a slight change in engine note and reduction in accelleration at the changeover point.

If there is a big gap then there is something(or many things being an old TT) wrong with the system.

Try going up a hill and dropping into the 3500-4000 rpm zone and see how well it deals with it, that is the true test of how well it is operating.

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ok like i said i wad  gona get alot of slack about saying this but i never said i elimenated the VOD i said i reduced it to about half a second and the car doesnt feel like its hit a brick wall any more maybe i had a faulty valve like some have said but now my VOD is a simple pause my revs dnt drop any more and the motor doesnt sound like its choking to death. any way thanks for the opinions

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SOO081 wrote:

My point, Sharlene, is that you have zero tech experience with the TT, yet you continue to post in TT tech specific threads.

Its becoming rather annoying, I do say.

My advice is: post about what you do know, not on hearsay.
:bye:

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SOO081 wrote:

My point, Sharlene, is that you have zero tech experience with the TT, yet you continue to post in TT tech specific threads.

Its becoming rather annoying, I do say.

My advice is: post about what you do know, not on hearsay.
look mate, just because he hasn't got a TT doesn't mean he knows nothing about them. these are forums where people shouldn't be made to feel scared to post. its people like you that stop people from joining up. if you don't cut it out i'll cut you off.

consider this your first and last warning.

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Joel wrote:

look mate, just because he hasn't got a TT doesn't mean he knows nothing about them. these are forums where people shouldn't be made to feel scared to post. its people like you that stop people from joining up. if you don't cut it out i'll cut you off.

consider this your first and last warning.
Hear hear! I'm tired of having to scroll through this kind of nonsence. If someone does not own a particular model it does not mean that they have technical knowledge on that particular model for whatever reason.

Anyway, The only way to completely get rid of VOD is to go single turbo (one of the many reasons Subaru switched to Single turbo's on the latest Gen Liberty). One of the methods for reducing VOD is a decent BOV, among many others.

AFAIK it is probably the most cost effective proven method.

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Joel wrote:

look mate, just because he hasn't got a TT doesn't mean he knows nothing about them. these are forums where people shouldn't be made to feel scared to post. its people like you that stop people from joining up. if you don't cut it out i'll cut you off.
consider this your first and last warning.
First off, I'm not your mate.
Secondly, I don't really care for your stand off like behavour. I'm glad that being an administrator, and being all threatening like fulfills your ego after being shunted off elsewhere, but frankly, I don't give a hoot to your situation.

I'm tired sifting through these forums, only to see useless crap being relentlessly posted in inappropriate areas. I think its about time people posted things respectively in whats an appropriate opinion, and an appropriate comment in their own field of knowledge, in the appropriate forums/threads.

Personally, I think you should drop this "them versus us" attitude in regards to the other "specific model Subaru forum". Your attitude that you have demonstrated in your above post is that you (and other authoritative figures) have too much of a relaxed stance to people who post absolute horse s**t in threads where its not required. I think its about time you and other admin stepped up to the plate, and start to police things around here with a little more observance and consideration for others. I'm not asking you to go all Nazi, but it would be nice to see some people being pulled up for their misconduct and blatant inconsideration, in a discreet, and fair manner.

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Meow... thread fixed...

I second what Al (JZK25) mentioned, your probably used to the leaky BOV making your VOD bigger than it should be, and now its fixed its much nicer to drive. ive not found one thing that makes it go away but there are a lot of small things that make it better. some of which i did not think would change anything at all, and some that made a very noticeable difference.
i still have a VOD but it is tiny compared to what i started with.

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Are there any DIY ways to check for leaks n stuff? As discussed, he was probably just used to the leak and its not something you really go out and check if its not obvious.

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I have had good results in "righting" TT's by adjusting the secondary exhaust valve actuator rod.
Loosen it off until the flap rattles(you can hear the engine note change also) and then tighten it back up about 2 turns. This is a lot less tension than the factory setting but it has no ill effects and the changeover is always improved.

If you want to check things yourself you need to fully understand the operation of the system from a technical viewpoint not just a theoretical viewpoint. Do a heap of googling, reading and looking at your engine bay before you start fiddling.
I haven't had one I couldn't fix so far but at the same time none were simple fixes either and they all had different problems to each other.

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