I've done it to an AUDM gen2 liberty. the headlights are the same if yours are NOT projectors.

its piss easy, almost a straight plug and play, you only need to drill one 20mm hole in the back of each housing to get wires in and out of (they will provide all wiring and a grommet)the housing to go to and from the power transformers (little box they give you).

i didnt have to cut any wires at all with my kit. just be sure you by the kit with the correct bulb.

are you buying a BI-Xenon kit or a kit with halogen hi beam? cos from the sets i've seen the halogen hi beams are shit house

take a bulb out of each and it will say so on them.

btw, doing both hi/lo and foglights will give you an equivalent of 680Watts of halogen light. compared to actual halogen bulbs where you'd have 220W max with foggies and hi beam on

Legal?? haha...As far as i know aftermarket installs of HID's are illegal no matter what kelvin rating??,well thats what a local engineer said anyways....but angle them down a bit so they dont blind oncoming drivers and you should be fine

Also 4300k look too yellow to me...6000k is where its at!!! nice and white

i have heard that anything over 4300k is classified as illegal. But the info i received must be incorrect or uninformed.

I've got 4300K which is very white. anything more starts to get into that grey area of the law because they get a little bit blue from certain angles. which is illegal because blue is for emergency vehicles only.

police only need to suspect a defect and your off to get the whole car re-checked. so best to stay on the safe side with 4300K.

as for the engineer, i apologise for my profession a lot speak before they think!

I dont see how low or hi beam should make any difference. firstly no company makse a kit for HID hi and halogen lo beam.

secondly the majority of hi/lo bulbs are the same or close wattage (like 55/60W) in each filament anyway, they are just positioned in the bulb to throw the light differently

as long as you properly adjust all your lights so that low beams and foglights do NOT throw light any more than 30m you are pretty safe.

if your paranoid about police defecting you, hide the balasts extremely well and play dumb. end of the day if you admit nothing and say very little you get away with a lot. I've played my way out of a few defects and fines this way

lexus has factory 8000k hids? you kidding yourself...all factory hids are either 4300 or 5000k

basically all factory globes are 4300-5000k (similar colour to what the sun gives off), if you look at a colour chart 12000k wouldn't really be usable light at all. The blue-purple colour from hid's is caused by refraction

i would not be worried about being defected, specially if its in a gen 2 with projectors or a gen 3 (as they are new enough for cops to not really know any better, although personally i would not be happy with the light output and the fact i was blinding everyone with glare).

i went through a booze bus in my datto with one sealed beam and one retrofitted hid projector (i was halfway through the install) and they just gave it some funny looks and let me through!

agree with zedevan, 12000k would be VERY purple/bue to the point of confusing it with neons.

8000k is not legal no matter what way you look at it either

thatsgoodsquishy wrote:

Subarujunkie wrote:

Why do you worry about glare? i dont nor do i give to f's about it. the reason i dont care about it as other drivers put bigger globes in their lights when their h4's or other globes blow or they adjust the lights wrong and that is much worse glare then HID's... also lower the lights once the HID conversion is done just so you guys have a peace of mind..

You are a complete fucktard. You are what is wrong with the world today, fuck everyone else as long as im right. and you give shit advice about a topic you should know about. Fuck off and die in fire. Slowly. Then do it again

People like you give this forum a bad name and attack everyone....its a known fact that u cant stop the glare on HID conversions. so if you have no constructive advice to give, join your friend the Nurse know it all transvestite and live happly togather the both of you...

zedevan wrote:

Why do you worry about glare?

if the light output is uneven your eye's just become accustomed to the brightest spots, so while its all brighter it doesn't help you so much. i know that isn't directly glare, but its caused by the same thing, which i think you summed up very well.

its a known fact that u cant stop the glare on HID conversions

That is why hid kits should be illegal and actully enforced - i am sick of honda drivers blinding me with their fully sick blue headlights. HID retrofits are ofcourse an exception - yet are illegal for other reasons. I am curious as to how different the reflector off a factory HID gen3 is compared to a normal one, and am considering buying a pair and if the output is crap using my e46 projectors in them.

people having their lights set at the wrong height is another issue again - and i agree is often just as bad as a hid kit - which makes enforcing anything impossible, and once again cops should be concintrating on a crime that actully matters...(although blinding people with headlights i'd say could kill someone more than going 65km/h past a school at 2am)

Im sorry i disagree with blinding headlights could kill. that is a so small chance. that is like people saying seatbelts save lives, but also seatbelts kill there is a % in all of chance...

Now honda drivers blind you with factory HIDS as well so there for HIDS shouldnt be illegal even the retrofit ones. that would be double standard factory cars legal retrofit illegal when the reflectors are exactlly the same except if the car has projectors....
Now the only way to reduce some effect of glare on hid retrofits is to lower the lights a fractions and this can only be done the right way with a headlight alighner so if the standard globe was at one point lower it lower and it will reduce the first impact of bright light. i also think the HIDs are so common now on factory and after market that the drivers are getting used to it....

Now Gen III factory HIDS and non hid headlights are exactlly the same and that includes the reflector....
cops should stick to busting crime that matters and not enforce lights or defects as most of the time they are wrong in what they are giving a defect for...

we can debate this subject over and over and argue that hids should be illegal or legal but the fact remains HIDs are stll legal in NSW and that is that. till they become illegal then we can worry about it...

provar wrote:

glare is not an issue, you can still see perfectly well when a car is coming at you with HID or incorrectly adjusted beams, just dont let them dazzle you and pay attention to the road not think about how bright his lights are. I have no issue being blinded or whatnot from anyone ever.


btw, this is some serious forum ranting we've got going on

i dont see it as a rant, its useful info untill dickheads attack members for no reason...