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Sooo,

For about 45k I can get a reasonably low klm car that pumps out 270kw, 550Nm, 0-60 in 2.9, 0-100 in 5.7 secs... No slouch. Apparently handles pretty well too.

Does anyone have any experience on the F6 Typhoon?

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i walked past one the other day big_smile

that's about it...

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for $45k you could buy a late model lib, build a 280kw at all 4 engine and get to 60 in 1.x seconds and 100 in 3.x seconds. and have change for a 6sp and big brakes. why buy a big heavy ford?

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I used to work with a guy who had one. Nice looking cars but not for me.

If you want bang for your buck i wouldn't bother with the F6. Get the xr6 turbo and spend the money you saved on the engine and you will blow an F6 away.

The F6 is heavier than the xr6t too.

I can't imagine a hugely positive response from a liberty forum but. Ask on a ford forum.

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Used to drive the things all the time and I rate them quite highly.

Far better than an XR6T IMO because of the trim upgrades, better con rods, better intercooler, etc. Insurance would be more, though.

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billsy;135342 wrote:

for $45k you could buy a late model lib, build a 280kw at all 4 engine and get to 60 in 1.x seconds and 100 in 3.x seconds. and have change for a 6sp and big brakes. why buy a big heavy ford?
Why?

1. FPV ~ 1700kg's.
    XR6T ~ 1600kg's
    GT ~ 1500kg's.
I wouldn't say that the GT is a lightweight compared the the "big heavy ford".

2. The cost of modding a GT to get that power and performance doesn't interest me. I do not have bottomless pockets nor the time nor the patience to have the car off the road while I'm losing money and time in the chase for POWA.

3. Modding a Lib as suggested will ruin resale.

4. FPV comes with all the go fast, stop quick, and turn well bits off the shelf and will have good resale.

I know this sort of thing might be suited to a ford forum, but I think that there are few folk on here that are quite educated when it comes to the Automobile and would be able to give me an unbiased opinion.

I'm genuinely intersted in learning more about this car from others experiences and not particularly intersted in reading posts about what I should potentially do with a Subaru.

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I forgot to mention: get one with the premium brake package. The stockers are ****e and are only worthy of being thrown at Dutch people and hippies.

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Marv;135387 wrote:

I forgot to mention: get one with the premium brake package. The stockers are ****e and are only worthy of being thrown at Dutch people and hippies.
HAHAHAHA... I love it.

Yeah, IF I was to go ahead with the plan, the Brembo package would be on the list.

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there is a yellow one down here that rocks up to calder every now and again, looks and sounds fairly stock that runs easy 10's on street tyres...

they are a fairly strong engine that can take a bit of punishment, and as marv said go for the 6 pot/4 pot brembo package as the other one is crapola.

the FG phoon goes even harder (i've only driven them both with fairly low k's), but some may find that a bit uneasy on the eye...

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^^ The FG sure does have alot of POWA. 310kW/565Nm... :suicide:

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Buy a BF series 2 XR6T, they get the stronger valve springs and internals over the older XR6T which means you can boost it up more and safer.
The F6 are good but they are in fact not much if at all quicker then the XR6T and at times get beaten by it, the F6 has more power but its heavier and just doesn't seem to launch as well.
You can cheaply extract massive power from the XR6T's, there are many in Aus already with over 1000Hp at the wheels.
Nizpro in Sydney (I think they are in Sydney) Make a kit that produces 750Kw at the engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUWCo3lDjH8
Link provided to the Engine dyno run.
The F6 will look better and have better interior appointments but the simple XR6T will be much cheaper leaving you with a little money left over to mod big_smile

FG F6 will do 0-100 in 5.2s and a 13.3s @ 178Km/h, 80-120 in 2.7s
FG XR6T will do 0-100 in 5.2s and a 13.5s @172.1,Km/h 80-100 in 3.0s

Pretty close specs there considering that they are rated at 40Kw difference.

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My opinion? It's still a Ford :ninja:

But probably quite a nice one...

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befour;135413 wrote:

The F6 are good but they are in fact not much if at all quicker then the XR6T and at times get beaten by it, the F6 has more power but its heavier and just doesn't seem to launch as well.

You can cheaply extract massive power from the XR6T's, there are many in Aus already with over 1000Hp at the wheels.
Nizpro in Sydney (I think they are in Sydney) Make a kit that produces 750Kw at the engine


FG F6 will do 0-100 in 5.2s and a 13.3s @ 178Km/h, 80-120 in 2.7s
FG XR6T will do 0-100 in 5.2s and a 13.5s @172.1,Km/h 80-100 in 3.0s
Pretty close specs there considering that they are rated at 40Kw difference.
IMO the power/weight difference isn't huge and you wouldn't notice it. You're talking about a maximum of 50kg, with an extra 50kW... the launching comes from people not knowing how to get the best from the AP twin-plate clutch, too. On the move, the F6 should easily be able to show a clean set of heels to an XR6T, even one with a few mods. The difference was quite apparent when you put it through corners, too as the F6 was more stable, cornered harder and had far more mechanical grip all 'round.

I also don't think you can compare FG vs BA/BF as they're almost 2 completely different cars. Regarding the speed split between XR/F6, remember the XR6T has a 3500rpm launch controller wink

And Nizpro is in Melbourne. smile

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big_smile I shall take your word for it big_smile I can imagine that the suspension of the F6 would really upset the XR6T's but for the $17,000 price difference between the second hand vehicles it would want to as well.
For that price difference you could build a monster XR6T that would blow the F6 out of sight in power and handling.

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Marv;135426 wrote:


I also don't think you can compare FG vs BA/BF as they're almost 2 completely different cars.
do ya think marv? to my knowledge, there is not a whole lot different between the two(cosmetics excluded), not to the extreme of two completely different cars... ie rear end is almost identical, front is a little different. engine has a few extra things etc. but with the price diff, you may be better starting with a BF...

they seemed to handle a bit better and the power del was better too, in the BF there is nothing till 3.5/4g then the tyres would light up... driving all of the line up i would have to say the typhoon or XR6T would be my only options as the rest seem very sluggish even the GT

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The GT isn't even a contender from the show room floor, its nothing more then a Ford Parts bin special made from bits and pieces of other ford engines. It will eventually be replaced with a newer 5.0L ford engine or a 6.2L OHV engine going back to the basics, it has not been decided yet.

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befour;135436 wrote:

The GT isn't even a contender from the show room floor, its nothing more then a Ford Parts bin special made from bits and pieces of other ford engines. It will eventually be replaced with a newer 5.0L ford engine or a 6.2L OHV engine going back to the basics, it has not been decided yet.
the typhoon engine will be replaced in 2010 too... they're going to V6 then...

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Yup, Duratec engine imported from the states, smaller capacity but they are working on a twin charger system for it big_smile that should produce a decent wad of power I would think, but whether or not it can live up to the Aussie in-line 6 is another story.

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befour;135438 wrote:

they are working on a twin charger system for it big_smile
im guessing you work for ford or know someone who does cause thats meant to be hush hush still...

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my favourite cars beside subis are fords... iv been in a F6 n driven it and draged it.

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the new g series xr6t is said to run 13.3 sec down the quarter and thats quoted my motor magazine and if i read correctly its one of the quikest auzzie production cars ever. i havent  seen times for the F6 yet. but i woudnt be surprised if it breakes the 12 sec barrier.

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Dane wrote:

do ya think marv? to my knowledge, there is not a whole lot different between the two(cosmetics excluded), not to the extreme of two completely different cars... ie rear end is almost identical, front is a little different. engine has a few extra things etc. but with the price diff, you may be better starting with a BF...
It's not massive, but it is certainly a quantum leap IMO. The suspension and diff were upgraded weren't they? As well as the ECU tune, engine internals, etc? It's not like comparing a Gen1 to a Gen4, but more like Gen3 vs Gen4 wink


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The GT isn't even a contender from the show room floor, its nothing more then a Ford Parts bin special made from bits and pieces of other ford engines. It will eventually be replaced with a newer 5.0L ford engine or a 6.2L OHV engine going back to the basics, it has not been decided yet.
The GT isn't a contender because it is a shallow pit of the heights the nameplate reached in the '60s and early '70s. Those times are dead, the GT is now just around to provide older guys with a bit of V8 heritage and for something to sit against HSV's (far better) GTS.

XR8 & GT = nuggets.

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I read that the new F6 or Gt or whatever its called has slightly narrower rear track (due to smaller spacers or a narrower hub or whatever) than the older one, but for my money id be buying a well tuned r32 gtr with say, 500kw and runs 10's and can destroy pretty much anything that happens to accidentally get in its path, but im guessing thats not your thing. Those FPV (or what ever its called) models seem ti be internally strong enough, no wonder you see those LS1 and LS2 supercharger kits and turbo kits for the 6 bangers that make something like 450kw atw, probably too much for the tyres though and power isnt the main factor that makes a fast car, if anyting, it comes second to handling, if its a big heavy boat with ultra-stiff coilovers isnt going to neccesarily beat  a lighter, less powerfull car with well tuned sus and brakes, that brembo option sounds good though.

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CAZB4;135452 wrote:

I read that the new F6 or Gt or whatever its called has slightly narrower rear track (due to smaller spacers or a narrower hub or whatever) than the older one, but for my money id be buying a well tuned r32 gtr with say, 500kw and runs 10's and can destroy pretty much anything that happens to accidentally get in its path, but im guessing thats not your thing. Those FPV (or what ever its called) models seem ti be internally strong enough, no wonder you see those LS1 and LS2 supercharger kits and turbo kits for the 6 bangers that make something like 450kw atw, probably too much for the tyres though and power isnt the main factor that makes a fast car, if anyting, it comes second to handling, if its a big heavy boat with ultra-stiff coilovers isnt going to neccesarily beat  a lighter, less powerfull car with well tuned sus and brakes, that brembo option sounds good though.
Alex, help. I think an AIDS bunny just jumped up and bit me, and now I've got the fear and loathing....

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Marv;135453 wrote:

Alex, help. I think an AIDS bunny just jumped up and bit me, and now I've got the fear and loathing....
BWAHAHAHAHAAaaaaa..... Teh AIDS is back....

Good info boys, keep it coming!

It seems as though the XR6T is building up a compelling defence over the F6...

Proceed...

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Oh oh somebody has a bad case of retardation. Loathing of what may i ask:

A) GTR fan boy bs or...

B) General BS or...

C) Other....Details?

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