1997 Liberty Replacement Motor or Fix Head Gasket?

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Hi guys,

Just purchased a 1997 Subaru Liberty RX 2.5l, with 198,000 on the clock.  Within three weeks the car showed signs of a blown head gasket (bubbling in coolant, overheating, and coolant coming out of overflow bottle).  To cut to the chase, I have had quotes for around the $2500 mark to fix the leaking head gasket.  I have been playing with the Idea of putting a second hand or refurb motor in the car instead.  The 1997 RX liberty from what I have heard is common for head gasket problems.  I was thinking about getting a EJ25 from a later model liberty (GEN3) which is SOHC rather than DOHC.  Would this be a straight forward motor replacement or is there much more involved? 

Does anyone have any other ways or ideas of going about the situation?
Any ideas would be appreciated smile





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If you are going to engine swap... wink Turbo.

Otherwise it seems like a whole lot of effort without much gain, would just get the HG fixed. The cost involved for the engine swap would far exceed the cost of another car.

I know nothing about the actual engine swapping but others here might know lol.

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Call Ichiban and enquire about a replacement 2.5L DOHC motor. It'll probably cost you $1000 at the most, and if you are even moderately mechanically minded you could do the job yourself in a day - weekend at the most.
Conversion is always a good laugh, but if you're baulking at $2500 to fix the motor I think you'll find the cost of a conversion a bit steep. There's no point putting a gen3 SOHC motor in - the wiring is different and the DOHC has more torque anyway.

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Mate, all the cost is in Labor of removing the engine to swap the head gasket.
buying another engine at $1000 bucks is going to cost you more if you cant replace the engine yourself.

where are you located?

i have done plenty of these, its easily done in 2 days, day 1 remove engine and take heads to get machined. day 2 refit everything.. the reason you are being quoted so high also is they will do a 200,000k service at the same time, as you would be stupid not to.. is it manual? think about clutch also.. its all so much easier while the engine is out.. might as well do everything at once.

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Thanks for suggestions, Unfortunately I wouldnt go calling myself much of a mechanic, I only have a vague idea of parts etc, but have never attempted doing engine swaps or taking apart heads.  I live in SA and dont really know anywhere besides S&J who specialise in the EJ25s.  Id be happy paying someone who knew how to do this kind of work who lived localy.   and yes it is a manual, although clutch does seems really good at the moment. 

Interesting about the DOHC having more torque something I didnt know smile
So seems like SOHC is out of the question, alot of mucking around for no reason
Ichiban have a DOHC going on ebay for $500, except im hesitant in buying a second motor with unknown kms and service history

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2500 is pretty cheap. Cost me over 5000 to have mine rebuilt but I did not cut any corners... Either way you need to spend money to fix it.
A second hand motors cheaper and you could be lucky and it will be trouble free..
It could also pack up as you don't know the history of it.
If you plan to keep it fix what you have if you don't, put a second hand motor in and see how it goes

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for that many km's, i'd source a low km DOHC 2.5 from ichiban
so a full service and slap on new headgaskets too (as the new motor will probably fry it's original ones at 150,000km)
water-pump, all engine seals, timing belt idlers, etc

yes it will cost you a fir bit of cash, but a fresher motor which will give you 100,000km of trouble free motoring.

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Robbks wrote:

for that many km's, i'd source a low km DOHC 2.5 from ichiban
so a full service and slap on new headgaskets too (as the new motor will probably fry it's original ones at 150,000km)
water-pump, all engine seals, timing belt idlers, etc

yes it will cost you a fir bit of cash, but a fresher motor which will give you 100,000km of trouble free motoring.
Thats right smile That would be the most sensible thing to do if you decide to keep the car. they are very nice cars to drive so I'm sure you won't be disappointed when the job is done properly. Otherwise you also have the option of marking down a bit and selling it and passing the problem to someone else.

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Robbks wrote:

for that many km's, i'd source a low km DOHC 2.5 from ichiban
so a full service and slap on new headgaskets too (as the new motor will probably fry it's original ones at 150,000km)
water-pump, all engine seals, timing belt idlers, etc

yes it will cost you a fir bit of cash, but a fresher motor which will give you 100,000km of trouble free motoring.
+1. this is definitely what i'd be doing. putting a second had engine in without doing a full timing belt/gasket service is fraught with danger.

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