100 Octane Fuel
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by portugese_gorilla on 27-01-09 03:42 AM Hey i drove past a servo the other day that had 100 octane petrol advertised and i was wondering if anyone on here had used it and noticed any real difference in economy and performance? and well if its worth even getting? |
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by 988OXR on 27-01-09 04:05 AM Shell did have a Racing fuel available to the general public but phased it out awhile ago. The higher the octane rating, the more timing you can put into the engine when tuning. The only other benefit is its a cleaner burning fuel and acolder burning fuel. When it combusts, it explodes a bit harder so you might find the car revs a little quicker. Put some in your car and see if you notice any difference. It will not damage your cars motor. |
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by walts on 27-01-09 06:28 AM BP Ultimate 98 FTW. |
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by XoN on 27-01-09 06:52 AM 100 octane fuel is usually 98 (or even less) with ethanol mixed in to raise the octane I believe.
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V7 STi EJ207 powered 1998 Liberty RX Bilstein Edition |
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by hawks123 on 27-01-09 07:09 AM If you research ethanol, most things say not to use in B4's, i'm not sure about other subies though. |
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If it's Broke, Use a Cable Tie. |
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by provar on 27-01-09 08:23 AM i wouldn't put ethanol in my lawn mower! there is a reason they can only use so much of it in petrol, because if they use any more bad **** happens. its basically watering down fuel with cheap ****. if it was any good they wouldn't limit the amount in fuel.
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by 14nce on 27-01-09 08:39 AM There is a fuel on trial in melbourne called E85, its 86% ethonol but is 105 octane. |
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by provar on 27-01-09 08:44 AM
in my opinion thats a perfect reason to avoid it |
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by 14nce on 27-01-09 08:57 AM
it only eats them faster ordinary fuel also degrades them, its like putting better brake pads and tyres on your car. You get better performance but at the price of increased maintainance on related items, eg having to replace tyres and brake discs more frequently. Everything to do with cars is a compromise between price, performance and reliability. |
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by provar on 27-01-09 09:04 AM "e85 is not suitable for use in any other motor vehicles other than those designed specifically for e85, such as the new SAAB BioPower 9-3 and SAAB BioPower 9-5."
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by WhiteRX on 27-01-09 09:06 AM Subaru Australia posted an article on their site some time ago recommending that Ethanol based fuels should not be used.
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Current - MY08 Liberty Wagon Previous - MY03 RX Sedan |
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by 14nce on 27-01-09 09:08 AM I basically said that in my post. Your car has to be tuned for it, as it takes alot more fuel to get correct AFR's. jumping from 760cc injectors to 1050cc injector for the same AFRs should be a pretty good indication of this. If you car is not tuned for this fuel it will go bang as it will run lean. |
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by walts on 27-01-09 09:11 AM
I wouldnt say its the cheapest power gain you will get when you consider upgrading injectors, fuel pump etc. plus the cost of the tune. |
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by 14nce on 27-01-09 09:16 AM
if you have plaaned on running E85 from the word go you would be purchasing apropriate injectors (price different between 760cc and 1050cc is about $70 for the 4), fuel pump (about $50 more) and the tune would be the same weather you are running 98 or E85, and most aftermarket ecus will run multiple maps so you can have both tuned at intial purchase ( at most $200 extra, when its only $650-800 to tune a aftermarket ecu from scratch) so that $320 if you have planned it for a proven jump on an evo9 of 40kw. as the exhaust, turbo etc are also needed for the 98 tune at 250kw |
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by walts on 27-01-09 09:19 AM Mate no one on here has an evo 9! we are talking about running it on subaru's. |
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by 14nce on 27-01-09 09:27 AM doesnt matter what car its on, weather it be a v8, subaru or evo. at similar power levels and mods would see similar gains. the evo is just a car running e85 i am familar with |
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by Samon on 27-01-09 09:47 AM I know it's not a Subi, but there are a couple of guys on SkylinesAustralia who have had fantastic success tuning their Skylines for E85. When I get mine back on the road I may head down that track... the only issue currently is availability... there are a few United servos which have it but since the 'Line is only my "weekend" car it would be a royal PITA to have to drive 30 minutes from home just to fill up! |
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by CRUISN on 27-01-09 01:15 PM I used the 100 octane from United and i got worse economy and imo less power. |
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by Samon on 27-01-09 01:22 PM
I'd say that if you had it tuned for that particular petrol, you'd experience the benefits... |
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by walts on 27-01-09 01:22 PM Imo it is way under-tested, and the avaliability is average, and is difinately not worth changing a lot of things just to get it to run ok. |
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by 14nce on 27-01-09 02:09 PM the availabily isnt average, its non existant unless you live in teh right suburb in melbourne. |
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by XoN on 27-01-09 02:37 PM
99% sure ethanol is similar to LPG in that it has a higher octane rating, but needs to burn more fuel to do the same job... |
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V7 STi EJ207 powered 1998 Liberty RX Bilstein Edition |
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by Samon on 27-01-09 02:43 PM
Exactly. So a factory tune won't put in the extra fuel required for more power... now at E10 levels that's bugger all... but if you tried to run E85 on an engine which isn't tuned for it, it won't have enough fuel to burn properly and it will probably just stall. |
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by 14nce on 27-01-09 02:49 PM
and if it did run not long and you would have new light weight pistons |
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by jak4cars on 27-01-09 03:41 PM so that concludes, continue with whatever fuel you've been using and been happy with so far |
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